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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: Aliens are coming!
Date: 27 Mar 2015 09:12:24
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In stealth mode.

(with adapted drive output)

-- 
Thomas


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Aliens are coming!
Date: 27 Mar 2015 16:03:13
Message: <5515b781$1@news.povray.org>
On 27/03/2015 12:15, Thomas de Groot wrote:
> On 27-3-2015 10:43, Stephen wrote:
>> On 27/03/2015 00:18, Doctor John wrote:
>>> On 26/03/15 23:27, Stephen wrote:
>>>> As well as battling against the forces of evil. I am also active in the
>>>> secret class war. I wager the braggart is a follower of the rugby union
>>>> code.
>>>>
>>>
>>> [sends his evil minions to sup Stephen's Grouse (pl. Grice) and replace
>>> it with Lagavulin]
>>>
>>> Mwah-hah-hah-haah!
>>>
>>
>> That my friend, is why you will always fail. Overly complicated plans
>> and a tendency to gloat before you should.
>>
>>
> And why we should not be overly concerned about an alien invasion. They
> are so naive and predictable!
>

They never learn, do they?
All those books where they never win.
Can they even read?

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     Stephen


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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: Aliens are coming!
Date: 28 Mar 2015 04:10:03
Message: <551661db$1@news.povray.org>
On 27-3-2015 21:03, Stephen wrote:
> On 27/03/2015 12:15, Thomas de Groot wrote:
>> On 27-3-2015 10:43, Stephen wrote:
>>> On 27/03/2015 00:18, Doctor John wrote:
>>>> On 26/03/15 23:27, Stephen wrote:
>>>>> As well as battling against the forces of evil. I am also active in
>>>>> the
>>>>> secret class war. I wager the braggart is a follower of the rugby
>>>>> union
>>>>> code.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> [sends his evil minions to sup Stephen's Grouse (pl. Grice) and replace
>>>> it with Lagavulin]
>>>>
>>>> Mwah-hah-hah-haah!
>>>>
>>>
>>> That my friend, is why you will always fail. Overly complicated plans
>>> and a tendency to gloat before you should.
>>>
>>>
>> And why we should not be overly concerned about an alien invasion. They
>> are so naive and predictable!
>>
>
> They never learn, do they?
> All those books where they never win.
> Can they even read?
>
I wonder. You always see those primitive kinds of hieroglyphs. They are 
way below the human race on the universal scale of civilisation.

-- 
Thomas


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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: Aliens are coming!
Date: 28 Mar 2015 11:24:11
Message: <5516c79b@news.povray.org>
...and then it sweeps past.

-- 
Thomas


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Aliens are coming!
Date: 28 Mar 2015 19:25:23
Message: <55173863$1@news.povray.org>
On 28/03/2015 08:09, Thomas de Groot wrote:

>>
> I wonder. You always see those primitive kinds of hieroglyphs. They are
> way below the human race on the universal scale of civilisation.
>

I don't know if you have read any of Eric Frank Russell's work. But he 
knew how to treat them.

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     Stephen


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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: Aliens are coming!
Date: 29 Mar 2015 03:14:18
Message: <5517a64a$1@news.povray.org>
On 29-3-2015 0:25, Stephen wrote:
> On 28/03/2015 08:09, Thomas de Groot wrote:
>
>>>
>> I wonder. You always see those primitive kinds of hieroglyphs. They are
>> way below the human race on the universal scale of civilisation.
>>
>
> I don't know if you have read any of Eric Frank Russell's work. But he
> knew how to treat them.
>
Strangely enough, no. Somehow, his work didn't make it to NL, or I 
completely overlooked him in the days I scavenged libraries, which I 
still do btw but with less booty than in the past (that is another story).

-- 
Thomas


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Aliens are coming!
Date: 29 Mar 2015 04:05:59
Message: <5517b267@news.povray.org>
On 29/03/2015 08:14, Thomas de Groot wrote:
> On 29-3-2015 0:25, Stephen wrote:
>> On 28/03/2015 08:09, Thomas de Groot wrote:
>>
>>>>
>>> I wonder. You always see those primitive kinds of hieroglyphs. They are
>>> way below the human race on the universal scale of civilisation.
>>>
>>
>> I don't know if you have read any of Eric Frank Russell's work. But he
>> knew how to treat them.
>>
> Strangely enough, no. Somehow, his work didn't make it to NL, or I
> completely overlooked him in the days I scavenged libraries, which I
> still do btw but with less booty than in the past (that is another story).
>

In his universe. The Earthmen are on their own, often laconic and 
sneaky. On the gripping hand. The Aliens are powerful but easily 
bamboozled.

Libraries?
The main library where I live has turned itself into an internet cafe. 
And they keep selling off their books.

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     Stephen


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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: Aliens are coming!
Date: 29 Mar 2015 04:22:12
Message: <5517b634$1@news.povray.org>
On 29-3-2015 10:05, Stephen wrote:
> On 29/03/2015 08:14, Thomas de Groot wrote:
>> On 29-3-2015 0:25, Stephen wrote:
>>> On 28/03/2015 08:09, Thomas de Groot wrote:
>>>
>>>>>
>>>> I wonder. You always see those primitive kinds of hieroglyphs. They are
>>>> way below the human race on the universal scale of civilisation.
>>>>
>>>
>>> I don't know if you have read any of Eric Frank Russell's work. But he
>>> knew how to treat them.
>>>
>> Strangely enough, no. Somehow, his work didn't make it to NL, or I
>> completely overlooked him in the days I scavenged libraries, which I
>> still do btw but with less booty than in the past (that is another
>> story).
>>
>
> In his universe. The Earthmen are on their own, often laconic and
> sneaky. On the gripping hand. The Aliens are powerful but easily
> bamboozled.
>
> Libraries?
> The main library where I live has turned itself into an internet cafe.
> And they keep selling off their books.
>
Oop. I meant /bookshops/, I was the victim of a multi-linguistic 
semantic mix-up ;-)

However, the future of /libraries/ is bleak indeed. I witness the same 
as you, here. :-(

-- 
Thomas


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From: Jörg 'Yadgar' Bleimann
Subject: Re: Aliens are coming!
Date: 30 Mar 2015 05:19:47
Message: <55191533@news.povray.org>
Hi(gh)!

On 29.03.2015 10:05, Stephen wrote:

> Libraries?
> The main library where I live has turned itself into an internet cafe.
> And they keep selling off their books.
>

Internet café... trading quality literature for second- and third-class 
content snippets, ignorant bulletin board rants, conspiracy loony 
propaganda and Chick gospel tracts! Poor, poor world!

I think copyrights on books should expire 20 years after publication (at 
least with maps, it's this way in Germany - they are counted for 
whatever reason as databases, which may be copied freely 15 years after 
initial publication!), not 50, 70 or 100 years after the author's death 
- then we could drastically improve the Internet's content - let alone 
full-text searching and all those features which come with digitalizing!

See you in Khyberspace!

Yadgar

Now playing: Kriegstanz [War Dance] (Heinz-Rudolf Kunze)


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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: Aliens are coming!
Date: 30 Mar 2015 07:45:57
Message: <55193775$1@news.povray.org>
On 30-3-2015 11:21, Jörg 'Yadgar' Bleimann wrote:
> Hi(gh)!
>
> On 29.03.2015 10:05, Stephen wrote:
>
>> Libraries?
>> The main library where I live has turned itself into an internet cafe.
>> And they keep selling off their books.
>>
>
> Internet café... trading quality literature for second- and third-class
> content snippets, ignorant bulletin board rants, conspiracy loony
> propaganda and Chick gospel tracts! Poor, poor world!

In about 10 to 15 years, I have seen the quality content of the local 
public library books stock here drop down from high and broad to average 
and narrow. The selling off of their quality books has enabled me to 
salvage a number of (in my view) important works although I sadly missed 
a large number of them. When replaced, they were by the flotsam of 
today's printing press under the regulation that that is what the public 
wants and governed by shrinking budgets. 'Books are a thing of the 
past', they say.

>
> I think copyrights on books should expire 20 years after publication (at
> least with maps, it's this way in Germany - they are counted for
> whatever reason as databases, which may be copied freely 15 years after
> initial publication!), not 50, 70 or 100 years after the author's death
> - then we could drastically improve the Internet's content - let alone
> full-text searching and all those features which come with digitalizing!
>

Maybe. I fear it would hardly improve the quality; the net is too vast. 
On the other hand, I must say that with appropriate searching know how, 
there is a vast store of knowledgeable stuff out there which we did not 
have access to in the past.

-- 
Thomas


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