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From: Shay
Subject: Re: CSG Challenge
Date: 26 Jul 2013 09:13:29
Message: <51f275f9$1@news.povray.org>
That (flattr) works. Thank you.

"clipka"  wrote in message news:51f256bf@news.povray.org... 

Am 26.07.2013 11:36, schrieb Shay:

> Yeah, about that. I can find no way to support POV-Ray. The wishlist is
> empty, and the 'support' link on the website links to the online forums
> page.

Heh. The "support" link isn't meant to be for people intending to 
support POV-Ray, but for people requesting support about POV-Ray :-P

> You're (to me) the most visible POV developer at the moment. Is
> there a book or something you'd find useful?

You've caught me off guard there - I'll try to come up with something.


Alternatively, I might point you to one of the following pages:

   http://www.lipka-koeln.de/%C3%BCber-pov-ray/
   http://www.lipka-koeln.de/%C3%BCber-pov-ray/%C3%BCberpov/

and draw your (and anyone else's) attention particularly to the small 
green Flattr buttons.


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From: clipka
Subject: Re: CSG Challenge
Date: 26 Jul 2013 09:52:59
Message: <51f27f3b@news.povray.org>
Am 26.07.2013 15:12, schrieb Shay:

> If linear prisms are allowed, will curved prisms be allowed as well?

Why, yes, of course.

> I don’t completely disagree with allowing linear prisms as a shortcut, but
> there's something nice about being able to say a shape is made from
> planes, spheres, boxes, cones, cylinders, and tori (rings). These shapes
> (ok, maybe not planes) are known to children. Most people think of a
> prism as something to make rainbows out of sunlight.

I have no problem with you considering this an art form of its own, but 
assigning this concept to the term "CSG scene" is like assigning the 
concept of haikus to the word "poetry": Sure, every haiku qualifies as 
poetry, but if you ask me to write poetry don't necessarily expect me to 
write a haiku.


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From: Shay
Subject: Re: CSG Challenge
Date: 26 Jul 2013 10:02:14
Message: <51f28166$1@news.povray.org>
"clipka"  wrote in message news:51f27f3b@news.povray.org...

Am 26.07.2013 15:12, schrieb Shay:

>> If linear prisms are allowed, will curved prisms be allowed as well?

> Why, yes, of course.

But not triangles? Patches?

> I have no problem with you considering this an art form of its own, but 
> assigning this concept to the term "CSG scene" is like assigning the 
> concept of haikus to the word "poetry": Sure, every haiku qualifies as 
> poetry, but if you ask me to write poetry don't necessarily expect me to 
> write a haiku.

Maybe we need a third term. There's even some disagreement about what 
qualifies as a haiku.

I'm just exploring what would be the most fun sandbox for a side-challenge 
round of the tcrtc. I think we agree that some explication of "csg scene" 
would be useful. It's all up to Thomas in the end, of course.

-Shay


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From: clipka
Subject: Re: CSG Challenge
Date: 26 Jul 2013 10:46:19
Message: <51f28bbb$1@news.povray.org>
Am 26.07.2013 16:02, schrieb Shay:
>
>
> "clipka"  wrote in message news:51f27f3b@news.povray.org...
>
> Am 26.07.2013 15:12, schrieb Shay:
>
>>> If linear prisms are allowed, will curved prisms be allowed as well?
>
>> Why, yes, of course.
>
> But not triangles? Patches?

Why, no, of course not. They're not Solid Geometry, so don't fit the 
bill of CSG = "Constructive Solid Geometry".

> Maybe we need a third term. There's even some disagreement about what
> qualifies as a haiku.

How about "hardcore CSG"? :-)


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From: Shay
Subject: Re: CSG Challenge
Date: 26 Jul 2013 10:59:37
Message: <51f28ed9$1@news.povray.org>
"clipka"  wrote in message news:51f28bbb$1@news.povray.org...

>> Maybe we need a third term. There's even some disagreement about what
>> qualifies as a haiku.

> How about "hardcore CSG"? :-)

I like "Children'S Garden"
           ^            ^ ^
           C            S G

This is the root of kindergarten--don't know if that is a common term 
outside the US

A great image for kindergarten:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/53/Eakins%2C_Baby_at_Play_1876.jpg

-Shay


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From: MichaelJF
Subject: Re: CSG Challenge
Date: 26 Jul 2013 15:40:00
Message: <web.51f2cfb33a6d0c0478771abc0@news.povray.org>
Thomas de Groot <tho### [at] degrootorg> wrote:
> On 26-7-2013 0:28, Shay wrote:
> > A CSG (primitive primitives) sub-round of the tcrtc might draw some
> > interesting entries.
>
> I shall note this down for future reference. Once the new procedures are
> in place (which will be soon I hope) we can launch indeed such a challenge.
>
> Thomas

Yes indeed I would like such a challenge. But we must consider that not only
POVers participate in TC-RTC. We would exclude them with this approach.

Best regards,
Michael


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From: clipka
Subject: Re: CSG Challenge
Date: 26 Jul 2013 20:45:47
Message: <51f3183b$1@news.povray.org>
Am 26.07.2013 16:59, schrieb Shay:

> I like "Children'S Garden"
>            ^            ^ ^
>            C            S G
>
> This is the root of kindergarten--don't know if that is a common term
> outside the US

Well, at least over here in Germany it is :-P


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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: CSG Challenge
Date: 27 Jul 2013 03:18:05
Message: <51f3742d@news.povray.org>
On 26-7-2013 21:36, MichaelJF wrote:
> Yes indeed I would like such a challenge. But we must consider that not only
> POVers participate in TC-RTC. We would exclude them with this approach.
>

That is true. However, if we can run two challenges simultaneously as is 
the plan, one can be devoted to POV-Ray from time to time. After all, 
the site was launched by this community ;-)

Thomas


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From: Paolo Gibellini
Subject: Re: CSG Challenge
Date: 29 Jul 2013 07:31:59
Message: <51f652af$1@news.povray.org>
>Samuel Benge  on date 26/07/2013 3.26 wrote:
> I vote for a CSG sub-round!
>
> Sam
>
I like this version a lot
;-)
Paolo


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From: nemesis
Subject: Re: CSG Challenge
Date: 29 Jul 2013 15:00:01
Message: <web.51f6bb963a6d0c04352a052d0@news.povray.org>
you guys are amazing

"Samuel Benge" <stb### [at] hotmailcom> wrote:
> James Holsenback <nom### [at] nonecom> wrote:
> > A CSG (primitive primitives) sub-round of the tcrtc might draw some
> > interesting entries.
>
> I vote for a CSG sub-round!

me too! :)


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