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From: Alain
Subject: Re: My Hammer [wip 1]
Date: 18 Jul 2013 14:44:56
Message: <51e837a8@news.povray.org>

> On 17/07/2013 1:25 PM, Thomas de Groot wrote:
>> A larger reworked version.
>>
>
>
> I know it is a WIP, Thomas. But does Stainless Steel rust like that?
>
> And while I'm being pernickety, there are no scratches or dents on the
> hammer and the binding round the handle looks too new. ;-)
>
> It does look comfortable to hold and well modelled, though.
>

Hammers are very rarely made of stainless steel. Some are chromed, 
usualy with a very thin chrome coat that is easily worn away under 
normal use. Some times, it's not even chrome but a protective varnish or 
some other material.


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: My Hammer [wip 1]
Date: 19 Jul 2013 01:02:39
Message: <51e8c86f$1@news.povray.org>
On 18/07/2013 9:04 AM, Thomas de Groot wrote:
> On 17-7-2013 22:20, Stephen wrote:
>
>>
>> It does look comfortable to hold and well modelled, though.
>
> These hammers are very well balanced and finished. Hitting rocks with it
> is intuitive. For other purposes like driving in nails, it feels
> surprisingly unstable however. Each tool to its trade.
>

As you say each to its own.


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Regards
     Stephen


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: My Hammer [wip 1]
Date: 19 Jul 2013 01:12:15
Message: <51e8caaf$1@news.povray.org>
On 18/07/2013 8:45 PM, Alain wrote:


>
> Hammers are very rarely made of stainless steel. Some are chromed,
> usualy with a very thin chrome coat that is easily worn away under
> normal use. Some times, it's not even chrome but a protective varnish or
> some other material.

This is true, I have never held a geologist hammer and I doubt they are 
made of stainless steel. I expect that they are made of hardened steel. 
I have used copper headed hammers and rubber hammers when you really 
don't want sparks. Not much use to a geologist, I imagine. ;-)

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     Stephen


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: My Hammer [wip 2]
Date: 19 Jul 2013 01:17:04
Message: <51e8cbd0@news.povray.org>
On 18/07/2013 2:26 PM, Thomas de Groot wrote:
> - More work on the textures, bringing them closer to the original in RL.
>
> - Bevelling of the hammer head.
>
> ToDo:
>
> - modelling of dents and wear on the hammer head.
>
> - modelling of individual leather rings on the handle.
>
> Thomas

This is an awful lot of work on a mere prop. 'Funny how you can get 
attached to things. Which is the point as your man is soon not attached 
nor ever will be to his hammer. :-)

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     Stephen


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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: My Hammer [wip 2]
Date: 19 Jul 2013 03:06:28
Message: <51e8e574$1@news.povray.org>
On 19-7-2013 7:17, Stephen wrote:
> This is an awful lot of work on a mere prop. 'Funny how you can get
> attached to things. Which is the point as your man is soon not attached
> nor ever will be to his hammer. :-)
>

Indeed, but I intended to have a separate 'portrait' of my hammer. A 
kind of tribute if you want. So, here it is.

Thomas


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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: My Hammer [wip 1]
Date: 19 Jul 2013 03:22:54
Message: <51e8e94e$1@news.povray.org>
On 19-7-2013 7:12, Stephen wrote:
> On 18/07/2013 8:45 PM, Alain wrote:
>> Hammers are very rarely made of stainless steel. Some are chromed,
>> usualy with a very thin chrome coat that is easily worn away under
>> normal use. Some times, it's not even chrome but a protective varnish or
>> some other material.
>
> This is true, I have never held a geologist hammer and I doubt they are
> made of stainless steel. I expect that they are made of hardened steel.
> I have used copper headed hammers and rubber hammers when you really
> don't want sparks. Not much use to a geologist, I imagine. ;-)
>

Hardened steel it is I think, certainly not stainless indeed. When my 
hammer was new, there was a thin coating of varnish iirc, but no chrome. 
Exposed to all kind of weather and use, and variable conditions of 
storage, it became what it is now: dented, scratched, some rusty pits. 
Sometimes after cleaning, I have lightly oiled the steel for protection.

Stephen, I now can see the scene of some dumb guy using a rubber hammer 
on a metamorphic outcrop! Reason: sparks could start a forest fire ;-)

Which reminds me of other hazards. If you missed your hit and 
miscalculated the swing, the kneecap could be in the way... I have heard 
blood curdling curses often enough. And the stone splinters flying 
around and cutting scalps or cheeks. We did not have (use?) safety 
glasses, so the typical scene was somebody hitting a rock with averted 
head, or with his forearm in front of his eyes. Do you understand now 
about the kneecaps? :-)

Thomas


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: My Hammer [wip 2]
Date: 19 Jul 2013 07:10:01
Message: <web.51e91d775a2400b47d8c6e9c0@news.povray.org>
Thomas de Groot <tho### [at] degrootorg> wrote:
> On 19-7-2013 7:17, Stephen wrote:
> > This is an awful lot of work on a mere prop. 'Funny how you can get
> > attached to things. Which is the point as your man is soon not attached
> > nor ever will be to his hammer. :-)
> >
>
> Indeed, but I intended to have a separate 'portrait' of my hammer. A
> kind of tribute if you want. So, here it is.
>
> Thomas

I understand, only too well.


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: My Hammer [wip 1]
Date: 19 Jul 2013 07:35:01
Message: <web.51e923c0710953777d8c6e9c0@news.povray.org>
Thomas de Groot <tho### [at] degrootorg> wrote:


> Stephen, I now can see the scene of some dumb guy using a rubber hammer
> on a metamorphic outcrop! Reason: sparks could start a forest fire ;-)
>
> Which reminds me of other hazards. If you missed your hit and
> miscalculated the swing, the kneecap could be in the way...


You still would not want to hit yourself with the rubber hammer I'm thinking
about. It was not the bouncy stuff and weighted a lot.
> I have heard
> blood curdling curses often enough. And the stone splinters flying
> around and cutting scalps or cheeks. We did not have (use?) safety
> glasses, so the typical scene was somebody hitting a rock with averted
> head, or with his forearm in front of his eyes. Do you understand now
> about the kneecaps? :-)
>

Yes and when I nod my head. You hit it. ;-)


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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: My Hammer [final]
Date: 20 Jul 2013 04:22:52
Message: <51ea48dc@news.povray.org>
I added dents to the head but they are not too visible. Finally, I did 
not detail more the handle. It would not add much presently.

Moved the camera; added a lizard (Taschen); added flowers (PlantStudio) 
and grass (Poser) and reworked the rock texture.

This is the final version.

Thomas


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: My Hammer [final]
Date: 20 Jul 2013 04:50:10
Message: <51ea4f42@news.povray.org>
On 20/07/2013 9:22 AM, Thomas de Groot wrote:
>
> This is the final version.

It's worth its own entry. "TG Hammer".

-- 
Regards
     Stephen


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