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From: Doctor John
Subject: Sands Of Time (wip)
Date: 3 Jun 2009 07:36:49
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Very early stages of composition. Just can't make up my mind whether the
sand has too little or too much graininess. What think you all?

John
-- 
"Eppur si muove" - Galileo Galilei


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From: LightBeam
Subject: Re: Sands Of Time (wip)
Date: 3 Jun 2009 10:34:40
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Ironic ;-)


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From: gregjohn
Subject: Re: Sands Of Time (wip)
Date: 3 Jun 2009 12:35:00
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I like the stylized look of the sand.  The disconnect comes in the disparate
'style' of the letters versus the background.  Maybe some beveling and stylized
texturing of the letters would bring in a unified theme.


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From: clipka
Subject: Re: Sands Of Time (wip)
Date: 3 Jun 2009 15:05:00
Message: <web.4a26c936466ee5291181d7960@news.povray.org>
Doctor John <joh### [at] homecom> wrote:
> Very early stages of composition. Just can't make up my mind whether the
> sand has too little or too much graininess. What think you all?

What I see in the shot could go well as tiny ripples in the sand, which I'd
consider fitting if the letters were intended to be roughly man-sized (a bit
taller maybe).

It doesn't work for sand grains.

From my experience, "bumps 0.5" works quite good; scale should be such that the
bump "frequency" is approximately 1 bump per 1-2 pixels; bigger scales tend to
look more like ripples, while smaller scales may drown in anti-aliasing.

Another trick to add to the graininess is to scatter tiny spheres on the ground
where it's in focus (they need quite some tweaking to get right though), as was
done in this shot:

http://www.tc-rtc.co.uk/imagenewdisplay/stills/207/After_The_Storm.html


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From: Doctor John
Subject: Re: Sands Of Time (wip)
Date: 4 Jun 2009 06:12:44
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gregjohn wrote:
> I like the stylized look of the sand.  The disconnect comes in the disparate
> 'style' of the letters versus the background.  Maybe some beveling and stylized
> texturing of the letters would bring in a unified theme.
> 
> 
The letters and POV logo are unfinished objects. I like to work on each
individual element in a scene until I'm reasonably happy with it then
move on to the next. Maybe that's why I have so few completed images ...

John
-- 
"Eppur si muove" - Galileo Galilei


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From: Doctor John
Subject: Re: Sands Of Time (wip)
Date: 4 Jun 2009 06:17:37
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clipka wrote:
> What I see in the shot could go well as tiny ripples in the sand, which I'd
> consider fitting if the letters were intended to be roughly man-sized (a bit
> taller maybe).
> 
> It doesn't work for sand grains.
> 
OK
> From my experience, "bumps 0.5" works quite good; scale should be such that the
> bump "frequency" is approximately 1 bump per 1-2 pixels; bigger scales tend to
> look more like ripples, while smaller scales may drown in anti-aliasing.
> 
> Another trick to add to the graininess is to scatter tiny spheres on the ground
> where it's in focus (they need quite some tweaking to get right though), as was
> done in this shot:
> 
> http://www.tc-rtc.co.uk/imagenewdisplay/stills/207/After_The_Storm.html
> 
Now this is something I'm going to try! Brilliant graininess

John
-- 
"Eppur si muove" - Galileo Galilei


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From: clipka
Subject: Re: Sands Of Time (wip)
Date: 4 Jun 2009 13:10:00
Message: <web.4a27ff60466ee529f708085d0@news.povray.org>
Doctor John <joh### [at] homecom> wrote:
> clipka wrote:
> > http://www.tc-rtc.co.uk/imagenewdisplay/stills/207/After_The_Storm.html
> >
> Now this is something I'm going to try! Brilliant graininess

Thanks - I must confess I'm a bit proud of it myself ;)

Next time I tried to re-use it in a shot, it took me ages to tweak the grains'
texture though, to come anywhere close again... You have been warned :)


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