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From: Peter Hertel
Subject: Blurred apophysis meets traced cylinders
Date: 18 Feb 2009 11:15:01
Message: <web.499c335881b8128e2611931b0@news.povray.org>
Mid-week abstract anyone?
Just a small test, which uses a few techniques which perhaps might be of
interest for some?
First, it's a simple way of randomly placing a lot of objects without them
intersecting. The code should speak for itself, but I don't know if this method
is entirely bulletproof?
Second, I wanted to use an image I did with apophysis (
http://www.apophysis.org/ ). The resolution was a bit too low though, and I
lost the settings to remake it. So I blurred it by averaging the image several
times in a while loop. I've blurred procedural textures this way before, but it
works quite well with image_maps also.

I'd love to see some "remixes" of this scene! The source is below, and I can
post the background image if anyone's interested.
(Pinnedyr means phasmatodea/walking sticks in Norwegian).

-Peter

// +w1920 +h1200 +a0.3
// +w1920 +h400 +a0.3

camera{
        ultra_wide_angle
        location <1,3,-5>*0.3 look_at y*1 angle 130
        sky vrotate (<0,1,0>,z*40)
        translate <-1,-0.5,-1>

        right x*image_width/image_height
        up y
}

light_source{<5,15,-10>1}

#local TO = plane{y,0} // Trace Object

#local Radius = 0.025; // Radius of cylinders

#local S = seed(1337);

#local X = 0;
#while (X<1)
        #local Shoot_Start     =
vrotate(<1-rand(S)*0.5,3+sin(X*4*pi)*0.1+rand(S)*0.2,0>,y*360*rand(S));
        #local Shoot_Direction =
vrotate(<-Shoot_Start.x+rand(S)*0.1,-1.3-rand(S)*0.5,-Shoot_Start.z+rand(S)*0.1>,y*10*rand(S));
        #local Shoot_End       = trace(TO,Shoot_Start,Shoot_Direction);

        #if(Shoot_End.y=0) // If it hits the plane in TO
                #ifndef(OBJ) // Final OBJect
                        #local OBJ = merge{
                #else
                        #local OBJ = merge{object{OBJ}
                #end
                        cylinder{Shoot_Start,Shoot_End,Radius}
                        sphere{Shoot_Start,Radius}
                        sphere{Shoot_End,Radius}
                }
                #local TO =
                union{
                        object{TO}
                        cylinder{Shoot_Start,Shoot_End,Radius*2} // Radius
doubled to avoid collision
                }
        #end
#local X = X+0.001; // Decrease to shoot more cylinders
#end

object{OBJ
        texture{
                pigment {rgb 0.9 filter 0.9}
                finish{reflection {0.2,0.6} ambient 0.1 specular 0.4 phong 0.3
irid{0.25 thickness 1}}
        }
        interior{ior 1.255 fade_color x*2 fade_power 2}
}

#local AP = 0.05; // increase/decrease to blur less/more
// These settings worked well for my 1920x1200 image_map
sky_sphere{
        pigment{
        average
                pigment_map{
                        #local X = 0;
                        #while (X<1)
                                [AP+X*AP, image_map{png
"Apophysis-081026-214_1000.png" interpolate 2 map_type 1}rotate y*(35+1*X)]
                        #local X = X+AP;
                        #end
                }
        }
}


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From: [GDS|Entropy]
Subject: Re: Blurred apophysis meets traced cylinders
Date: 18 Feb 2009 12:28:31
Message: <499c453f$1@news.povray.org>
Man thats pretty cool!
Fractal Explorer (which you can program fractals in, using formula parser) 
and chaoscope are both very good as well. http://www.chaoscope.org/ 
http://www.eclectasy.com/Fractal-Explorer/

Hmm...that makes me want to try your method on some fractals of my own.

ian

"Peter Hertel" <peter@**nospam**hertel.no> wrote in message 
news:web.499c335881b8128e2611931b0@news.povray.org...
> Mid-week abstract anyone?
> Just a small test, which uses a few techniques which perhaps might be of
> interest for some?
> First, it's a simple way of randomly placing a lot of objects without them
> intersecting. The code should speak for itself, but I don't know if this 
> method
> is entirely bulletproof?
> Second, I wanted to use an image I did with apophysis (
> http://www.apophysis.org/ ). The resolution was a bit too low though, and 
> I
> lost the settings to remake it. So I blurred it by averaging the image 
> several
> times in a while loop. I've blurred procedural textures this way before, 
> but it
> works quite well with image_maps also.
>
> I'd love to see some "remixes" of this scene! The source is below, and I 
> can
> post the background image if anyone's interested.
> (Pinnedyr means phasmatodea/walking sticks in Norwegian).
>
> -Peter
>
> // +w1920 +h1200 +a0.3
> // +w1920 +h400 +a0.3
>
> camera{
>        ultra_wide_angle
>        location <1,3,-5>*0.3 look_at y*1 angle 130
>        sky vrotate (<0,1,0>,z*40)
>        translate <-1,-0.5,-1>
>
>        right x*image_width/image_height
>        up y
> }
>
> light_source{<5,15,-10>1}
>
> #local TO = plane{y,0} // Trace Object
>
> #local Radius = 0.025; // Radius of cylinders
>
> #local S = seed(1337);
>
> #local X = 0;
> #while (X<1)
>        #local Shoot_Start     =
> vrotate(<1-rand(S)*0.5,3+sin(X*4*pi)*0.1+rand(S)*0.2,0>,y*360*rand(S));
>        #local Shoot_Direction =
>
vrotate(<-Shoot_Start.x+rand(S)*0.1,-1.3-rand(S)*0.5,-Shoot_Start.z+rand(S)*0.1>,y*10*rand(S));
>        #local Shoot_End       = trace(TO,Shoot_Start,Shoot_Direction);
>
>        #if(Shoot_End.y=0) // If it hits the plane in TO
>                #ifndef(OBJ) // Final OBJect
>                        #local OBJ = merge{
>                #else
>                        #local OBJ = merge{object{OBJ}
>                #end
>                        cylinder{Shoot_Start,Shoot_End,Radius}
>                        sphere{Shoot_Start,Radius}
>                        sphere{Shoot_End,Radius}
>                }
>                #local TO =
>                union{
>                        object{TO}
>                        cylinder{Shoot_Start,Shoot_End,Radius*2} // Radius
> doubled to avoid collision
>                }
>        #end
> #local X = X+0.001; // Decrease to shoot more cylinders
> #end
>
> object{OBJ
>        texture{
>                pigment {rgb 0.9 filter 0.9}
>                finish{reflection {0.2,0.6} ambient 0.1 specular 0.4 phong 
> 0.3
> irid{0.25 thickness 1}}
>        }
>        interior{ior 1.255 fade_color x*2 fade_power 2}
> }
>
> #local AP = 0.05; // increase/decrease to blur less/more
> // These settings worked well for my 1920x1200 image_map
> sky_sphere{
>        pigment{
>        average
>                pigment_map{
>                        #local X = 0;
>                        #while (X<1)
>                                [AP+X*AP, image_map{png
> "Apophysis-081026-214_1000.png" interpolate 2 map_type 1}rotate 
> y*(35+1*X)]
>                        #local X = X+AP;
>                        #end
>                }
>        }
> }
>


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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: Blurred apophysis meets traced cylinders
Date: 19 Feb 2009 03:39:56
Message: <499d1adc$1@news.povray.org>
Looks very good. Should work with any apophysis image of course (I love that 
program), but there should be a kind of coincidence.

Thomas


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From: nemesis
Subject: Re: Blurred apophysis meets traced cylinders
Date: 19 Feb 2009 13:55:37
Message: <499dab29$1@news.povray.org>
Beautiful


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From: Carlo C 
Subject: Re: Blurred apophysis meets traced cylinders
Date: 2 Mar 2009 11:05:01
Message: <web.49ac02ed202941c2cc3c8ce00@news.povray.org>
"Peter Hertel" <peter@**nospam**hertel.no> wrote:
> Mid-week abstract anyone?
> Just a small test, which uses a few techniques which perhaps might be of
> interest for some?
> First, it's a simple way of randomly placing a lot of objects without them
> intersecting. The code should speak for itself, but I don't know if this method
> is entirely bulletproof?
> Second, I wanted to use an image I did with apophysis (
> http://www.apophysis.org/ ). The resolution was a bit too low though, and I
> lost the settings to remake it. So I blurred it by averaging the image several
> times in a while loop. I've blurred procedural textures this way before, but it
> works quite well with image_maps also.
>
> I'd love to see some "remixes" of this scene! The source is below, and I can
> post the background image if anyone's interested.
> (Pinnedyr means phasmatodea/walking sticks in Norwegian).
>
> -Peter
>
> // +w1920 +h1200 +a0.3
> // +w1920 +h400 +a0.3
>
> camera{
>         ultra_wide_angle
>         location <1,3,-5>*0.3 look_at y*1 angle 130
>         sky vrotate (<0,1,0>,z*40)
>         translate <-1,-0.5,-1>
>
>         right x*image_width/image_height
>         up y
> }
>
> light_source{<5,15,-10>1}
>
> #local TO = plane{y,0} // Trace Object
>
> #local Radius = 0.025; // Radius of cylinders
>
> #local S = seed(1337);
>
> #local X = 0;
> #while (X<1)
>         #local Shoot_Start     =
> vrotate(<1-rand(S)*0.5,3+sin(X*4*pi)*0.1+rand(S)*0.2,0>,y*360*rand(S));
>         #local Shoot_Direction =
>
vrotate(<-Shoot_Start.x+rand(S)*0.1,-1.3-rand(S)*0.5,-Shoot_Start.z+rand(S)*0.1>,y*10*rand(S));
>         #local Shoot_End       = trace(TO,Shoot_Start,Shoot_Direction);
>
>         #if(Shoot_End.y=0) // If it hits the plane in TO
>                 #ifndef(OBJ) // Final OBJect
>                         #local OBJ = merge{
>                 #else
>                         #local OBJ = merge{object{OBJ}
>                 #end
>                         cylinder{Shoot_Start,Shoot_End,Radius}
>                         sphere{Shoot_Start,Radius}
>                         sphere{Shoot_End,Radius}
>                 }
>                 #local TO =
>                 union{
>                         object{TO}
>                         cylinder{Shoot_Start,Shoot_End,Radius*2} // Radius
> doubled to avoid collision
>                 }
>         #end
> #local X = X+0.001; // Decrease to shoot more cylinders
> #end
>
> object{OBJ
>         texture{
>                 pigment {rgb 0.9 filter 0.9}
>                 finish{reflection {0.2,0.6} ambient 0.1 specular 0.4 phong 0.3
> irid{0.25 thickness 1}}
>         }
>         interior{ior 1.255 fade_color x*2 fade_power 2}
> }
>
> #local AP = 0.05; // increase/decrease to blur less/more
> // These settings worked well for my 1920x1200 image_map
> sky_sphere{
>         pigment{
>         average
>                 pigment_map{
>                         #local X = 0;
>                         #while (X<1)
>                                 [AP+X*AP, image_map{png
> "Apophysis-081026-214_1000.png" interpolate 2 map_type 1}rotate y*(35+1*X)]
>                         #local X = X+AP;
>                         #end
>                 }
>         }
> }

Thanks for the source!
:-)


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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: Blurred apophysis meets traced cylinders
Date: 3 Mar 2009 04:15:35
Message: <49acf537@news.povray.org>
Here is one.

Thomas


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From: Peter Hertel
Subject: Re: Blurred apophysis meets traced cylinders
Date: 7 Mar 2009 05:35:00
Message: <web.49b24ca8202941c22611931b0@news.povray.org>
"[GDS|Entropy]" <gds### [at] hotmailcom> wrote:
> Man thats pretty cool!
> Fractal Explorer (which you can program fractals in, using formula parser)
> and chaoscope are both very good as well. http://www.chaoscope.org/
> http://www.eclectasy.com/Fractal-Explorer/
>
> Hmm...that makes me want to try your method on some fractals of my own.
>
> ian

Thanks! Chaoscope is really great, I especially like the ability to rotate the
fractals. Made me understand a lot more how they're created.


"Thomas de Groot" <tDOTdegroot@interDOTnlANOTHERDOTnet> wrote:
> Looks very good. Should work with any apophysis image of course (I love that
> program), but there should be a kind of coincidence.
>
> Thomas

It also works rather well with tiled textures which are of somewhat low
resolution. But it's not always that easy to find the best axis to blur on.


nemesis <nam### [at] gmailcom> wrote:
> Beautiful

Thank you very much!


"Carlo C." <nomail@nomail> wrote:
> Thanks for the source!
> :-)

You're welcome, I hope it's useful for you.
Be aware that the code for the non-intersecting cylinders can intersect in some
rare cases, so it's not entirely bulletproof.

"Thomas de Groot" <tDOTdegroot@interDOTnlANOTHERDOTnet> wrote:
> Here is one.
>
> Thomas

Wow, that looks really nice!
I've been trying to add such a colorful background myself, but have failed
miserably. It would be interesting to see your scene with a more glasslike
texture.
Just an quick example with glass.inc, which works for my background:

global_settings{max_trace_level 20}

#include "glass.inc"
object{OBJ
        texture{
                pigment {rgbf 1}
                finish{F_Glass2}
        }
        interior{I_Glass2}
}


Have a nice weekend, and thanks for all the comments everyone!

-Peter


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From: Peter Hertel
Subject: Re: Blurred apophysis meets traced cylinders
Date: 7 Mar 2009 18:10:00
Message: <web.49b2fe11202941c22611931b0@news.povray.org>
> Just an quick example with glass.inc, which works for my background:

After 8h 36m (with some of the time in low priority), this was not a that quick
test after all ;) Maybe max_trace_level was a tad too high.
Well, I liked the result, so here it comes. Ultra-wide this time.

-Peter


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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: Blurred apophysis meets traced cylinders
Date: 9 Mar 2009 05:17:39
Message: <49b4deb3$1@news.povray.org>
"Peter Hertel" <peter@**nospam**hertel.no> schreef in bericht 
news:web.49b24ca8202941c22611931b0@news.povray.org...
>
> Wow, that looks really nice!
> I've been trying to add such a colorful background myself, but have failed
> miserably. It would be interesting to see your scene with a more glasslike
> texture.

You can change the palet used for the fractals quite easily, as you 
undoubtedly know...
Yes, with a better glass texture the result would be even better I guess. 
Yours looks great indeed.

> Just an quick example with glass.inc, which works for my background:

I shall try that. Thanks!

Thomas


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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: Blurred apophysis meets traced cylinders
Date: 9 Mar 2009 06:01:19
Message: <49b4e8ef@news.povray.org>
Here is with glass.inc.
Does not look so bright as you example, but the glass-like texture is more 
pronounced than in my earlier image. I used max_trace_level 10. I do not see 
any black spots, so that looks ok. Render time was about 30 minutes on my 
machine (Pentium D 2x3GHz).

Thomas


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