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From: Bill Pragnell
Subject: Io
Date: 30 Jan 2007 07:05:01
Message: <web.45bf3319bd6f9a7a731f01d10@news.povray.org>
I've been toying with possible CGSphere submissions. This wasn't my first
idea, but I was idly playing with planetary textures, and then managed to
get an exponential media atmosphere working. So I knocked up this view of
Io. The atmosphere effect is, of course, terribly hollywood and not at all
physically feasible, but I think it looks quite cool.

Jupiter is the correct distance away relative to Io's size, but I've moved
it up and along for aesthetic reasons, so Io isn't orbiting Jupiter's
equator any more. And someone's parked a dirty great black cosmic penknife
in the foreground.

But I'm not sure if I like it enough to submit it... anybody have any
suggestions for making it a little more Wow?

Bill


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Io
Date: 30 Jan 2007 07:15:00
Message: <web.45bf367cfa3b26c2f1cb1e660@news.povray.org>
"Bill Pragnell" <bil### [at] hotmailcom> wrote:
> I've been toying with possible CGSphere submissions. This wasn't my first
> idea, but I was idly playing with planetary textures, and then managed to
> get an exponential media atmosphere working. So I knocked up this view of
> Io. The atmosphere effect is, of course, terribly hollywood and not at all
> physically feasible, but I think it looks quite cool.
>
> Jupiter is the correct distance away relative to Io's size, but I've moved
> it up and along for aesthetic reasons, so Io isn't orbiting Jupiter's
> equator any more. And someone's parked a dirty great black cosmic penknife
> in the foreground.
>
> But I'm not sure if I like it enough to submit it... anybody have any
> suggestions for making it a little more Wow?
>
> Bill

Cosmic penknife? It looks more like a monolith to me 2001-ish.
As a idea for change maybe you could add a grid to suggest a gravity field.


Stephen


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From: Kyle
Subject: Re: Io
Date: 30 Jan 2007 07:44:25
Message: <g1fur215ggp3btri812qj5h2hlgab98qlt@4ax.com>
Bill:

You've broken rules 1 through 6, and the subnote rule, to contribute an acceptable
submission to CGSphere!  :-p

"Please do not modify the grid plane, as it is required for consistency."

"You must not, under any circumstances, modify the grid plane in any way (including
the grid texture), ..."

http://www.cgsphere.com/rules/

But, then again, so has almost everyone else.  ;-)


Kyle


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From: Ben Chambers
Subject: Re: Io
Date: 30 Jan 2007 07:49:14
Message: <45bf3eca@news.povray.org>
Hmm... maybe take that pen-knife, knock up a few more thousand of them, 
and have them suck up Jupiter's atmosphere?

It's hard not to say "Wow" as you witness the birth of a new Sun ;)

...Chambers


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From: Chris B
Subject: Re: Io
Date: 30 Jan 2007 08:12:48
Message: <45bf4450$1@news.povray.org>
"Bill Pragnell" <bil### [at] hotmailcom> wrote in message 
news:web.45bf3319bd6f9a7a731f01d10@news.povray.org...
> ... The atmosphere effect is, of course, terribly hollywood and not at all
> physically feasible, but I think it looks quite cool.
>
> ... anybody have any suggestions ...
>
> Bill
>

Hi Bill,

My vote is to see a Hollywood atmospheric glow around the penknife too.

Regards,
Chris B.


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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: Io
Date: 30 Jan 2007 08:20:18
Message: <45bf4612$1@news.povray.org>
I certainly do like this image.
If you still want Io to orbit Jupiter, just rotate Jupiter around the 
viewing-axis (z-axis more or less) until they are aligned again :-)
However, that might introduce a strange effect.
I am not sure about the penknife. I think that needs further modelling, in 
the line of some of the other comments perhaps. It needs something dramatic, 
especially as it is in the foreground.

Thomas


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From: Bill Pragnell
Subject: Re: Io
Date: 30 Jan 2007 09:10:01
Message: <web.45bf51aefa3b26c2731f01d10@news.povray.org>
Kyle <hob### [at] gatenet> wrote:
> Bill:
>
> You've broken rules 1 through 6, and the subnote rule, to contribute an acceptable
submission to CGSphere!  :-p
>
> But, then again, so has almost everyone else.  ;-)

That's just what I thought; there's loads of planet-based images with a grid
a bit like this.

"But, but... he started it!" <points finger>


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From: Bill Pragnell
Subject: Re: Io
Date: 30 Jan 2007 09:15:00
Message: <web.45bf52a2fa3b26c2731f01d10@news.povray.org>
Ben Chambers <ben### [at] pacificwebguycom> wrote:
> Hmm... maybe take that pen-knife, knock up a few more thousand of them,
> and have them suck up Jupiter's atmosphere?

Yes, I thought about that. Perhaps I should dispense with the CGSphere grid
and just do a 2001/2010 scene for my own benefit!

> It's hard not to say "Wow" as you witness the birth of a new Sun ;)

If you get the time before being clobbered by the blast... :)



Chris B wrote:
> My vote is to see a Hollywood atmospheric glow around the penknife too.

Good idea. I shall give that a go.


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From: Bill Pragnell
Subject: Re: Io
Date: 30 Jan 2007 09:25:01
Message: <web.45bf546bfa3b26c2731f01d10@news.povray.org>
"Thomas de Groot" <t.d### [at] internlDOTnet> wrote:
> I certainly do like this image.
> If you still want Io to orbit Jupiter, just rotate Jupiter around the
> viewing-axis (z-axis more or less) until they are aligned again :-)

Could do. That'll mean trial-and-error with some tiny tiny angles.

> I am not sure about the penknife. I think that needs further modelling, in
> the line of some of the other comments perhaps. It needs something dramatic,
> especially as it is in the foreground.

The problem is, as described, the penknife is exactly that: undramatic. I've
already exaggerated it by giving it a nonzero diffuse reflection! It's
supposed not to return anything, even radar, as I recall; you can only see
it by light occlusion. Perhaps I should fill it with stars or something.

Another idea I had was to use the crew section of the 'Discovery' as the
CGSphere, and have everything else arranged in the background. But that
might actually entail some effort! It'd be a good excuse for some greebling
though... hmmm...


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From: St 
Subject: Re: Io
Date: 30 Jan 2007 11:04:37
Message: <45bf6c95@news.povray.org>
"Bill Pragnell" <bil### [at] hotmailcom> wrote in message 
news:web.45bf3319bd6f9a7a731f01d10@news.povray.org...

> But I'm not sure if I like it enough to submit it... anybody have any
> suggestions for making it a little more Wow?

   Nice one Bill. Not sure if it would be a 'Wow' factor or not, but, 
bump_maps on the planet/s?

    7.8 from me.  :o)

    ~Steve~


>
> Bill
>


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