Remy Closset wrote:

> A poster for my association for blinds. That means that blind people have to 
> learn walking in their environment with the help of  locomotion teachers. 
> The objective is to increase their cognitive senses. The leaf is here to 
> symbolize all what the blind person has to mind out, by sample, warw of the 
> sun on the skin, noise of the wind and so on.
> Critics and ideas are welcome.

It might be better to make the leaves their fall color(s).  Leaves 
generally aren't green when they fall.

Regards,
John

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Remy Closset wrote:
> A poster for my association for blind

Looking good .. a few things:
1. The cuff on the trouser leg should be perpendicular to the crease
2. The shoe shouldn't turn up so much (hardly at all at that angle .. if 
you have a digital camera it's always good to get someone to help you 
with such angles)
3. Fallen leaves should be yellow/red .. and probably a bit smaller

Cheers!
Rick Measham

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Thank you St.
I think that pure realism is not eve appropriate to advertising. So I want 
to suggest dynamism in my image. Blind peaple are often timorous outside. 
The message is that locomotion lessons would make them more free. That's in 
fact the real result we obtain with those lessons.



See my answer for leaves lower in the messages



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> "Remy Closset" <rem### [at] neuffr> wrote in message 
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>>A poster for my association for blinds. That means that blind people have 
>>to learn walking in their environment with the help of  locomotion 
>>teachers. The objective is to increase their cognitive senses. The leaf is 
>>here to symbolize all what the blind person has to mind out, by sample, 
>>warw of the sun on the skin, noise of the wind and so on.
>> Critics and ideas are welcome.
>
> Hi Remy. Excellent image, although, judging by the size of the leaves, I 
> would scale the boot up, or scale the leaves down a little.
>
>  Also, I might possibly move the boot forwards so that the trouser leg is 
> resting on the 'shin' of the leg.
>
>    ~Steve~
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Thank's LightBeam
We all need encouragement




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>> A poster for my association for blinds. That means that blind people have 
>> to learn walking in their environment with the help of  locomotion 
>> teachers. The objective is to increase their cognitive senses. The leaf 
>> is here to symbolize all what the blind person has to mind out, by 
>> sample, warw of the sun on the skin, noise of the wind and so on.
>> Critics and ideas are welcome.
>>

>
> Nice done ! Great "feeling" too...

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Thank's Eero

Be sure I'll describe the drawings for the blind people I meet every week. 
There is just a big difference between blindbirth persons and the other 
blind and visually impaired persons. It's a strategy to make understand them 
a drawing. There is a solution with the relief  hoven; so they can touch the 
drawing. But they cannot understand perspective.



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> Remy Closset wrote:
>> A poster for my association for blinds. That means that blind people have 
>> to
>> learn walking in their environment with the help of  locomotion teachers.
>> The objective is to increase their cognitive senses. The leaf is here to
>> symbolize all what the blind person has to mind out, by sample, warw of 
>> the
>> sun on the skin, noise of the wind and so on.
>> Critics and ideas are welcome.
>
> Too bad that the people you do this image for can't see it. I'm sure
> thei'd approciete it even more than "just" the idea.
>
> Good idea, nice image.
>
> -- 
> Eero "Aero" Ahonen
>   http://www.zbxt.net
>      aer### [at] removethiszbxtnetinvalid

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Thank you John

The texture of the leaves is made with an image map build with a photography 
of a fallen leave. This year, here in the south of France, october was very 
hot and the leaves have been fallen without becoming brown (no pun with 
"hot" in  France)





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> Remy Closset wrote:
>
>> A poster for my association for blinds. That means that blind people have 
>> to learn walking in their environment with the help of  locomotion 
>> teachers. The objective is to increase their cognitive senses. The leaf 
>> is here to symbolize all what the blind person has to mind out, by 
>> sample, warw of the sun on the skin, noise of the wind and so on.
>> Critics and ideas are welcome.
>
> It might be better to make the leaves their fall color(s).  Leaves 
> generally aren't green when they fall.
>
> Regards,
> John

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Thank's Rick

I anwered your 1 and 3 critics.
For the turn of the shoe, I want to show that the person is ready to cross 
over the road.



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> Remy Closset wrote:
>> A poster for my association for blind
>
> Looking good .. a few things:
> 1. The cuff on the trouser leg should be perpendicular to the crease
> 2. The shoe shouldn't turn up so much (hardly at all at that angle .. if 
> you have a digital camera it's always good to get someone to help you with 
> such angles)
> 3. Fallen leaves should be yellow/red .. and probably a bit smaller
>
> Cheers!
> Rick Measham

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Remy Closset wrote:
> A poster for my association for blinds. That means that blind people have to 
> learn walking in their environment with the help of  locomotion teachers. 
> The objective is to increase their cognitive senses. The leaf is here to 
> symbolize all what the blind person has to mind out, by sample, warw of the 
> sun on the skin, noise of the wind and so on.
> Critics and ideas are welcome.
> 

> 
> 
> 
I will work hard to keep my English easy.

It is certainly a very interesting picture.

The subject and narrative method of the picture is served well by the 
particular mix of prominent textures together with raytraced tidiness. 
It procuces a slightly surreal, mental reality for the picture.

The texture of the pavements primarily, and the leaves secondarily, play 
a complex role.  They serve to give the picture realism through 
specificity.  But, the person walking is just as insulated from their 
direct tactile presence as he/she is from their visual presence. 
Yet,... yet, it is precisely the tactile feedback from the cane that 
guides the person.  It makes a very poignant sequence of contradictions.

The frozen fall of the leaves, the person's stride, and the momentary 
suspension of the cane just before it touches, drives the narrative or 
story of the picture.  That about to touch moment shown with the cane is 
  the literal and figurative center point.

The leaves are more difficult to understand.  I think this is the reason 
some commentors have pointed to their scale or color as being not quite 
fitting.  Those points aside, they still add ambiguity.  Are they 
falling, or being blown?  If I understood you, they are intended to 
symbolize everything that eludes the cognitive grasp of the blind?  And 
more so because they might reveal themselves briefly when accidently 
touching the skin?  Taking that into consideration they deliver a stark 
message.  It is a beautiful and powerful metaphor.  One wonders if it 
might be pushed further.  But maybe not.

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Jim, like always, you have put into words what is often difficult to express
clearly. I am impressed.
I would simply add that all the elements in the picture are frozen in that
precise moment before contact with the ground: the sole of the shoe, the
cane, the leaves... The strong roughness of wall and ground contrasting with
the smoothness of the shoe leather emphasizes also I believe the feeling of
strangeness and perhaps of danger felt by the person.



Thomas

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Jim and Thomas too, your comments translates exactly the message I want to 
trnamit with my drawing. A sort of angel flying over world difficulties, and 
not the currently image of visually impaired persons, painted like beggars 
(Breughel "les aveugles")
http://www.brunette.brucity.be/fond/eandre/breugel/entree.html

I thank your so much. I'm sure now I was'nt wrong.




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> Remy Closset wrote:
>> A poster for my association for blinds. That means that blind people have 
>> to learn walking in their environment with the help of  locomotion 
>> teachers. The objective is to increase their cognitive senses. The leaf 
>> is here to symbolize all what the blind person has to mind out, by 
>> sample, warw of the sun on the skin, noise of the wind and so on.
>> Critics and ideas are welcome.
>>

>>
>>
>>
> I will work hard to keep my English easy.
>
> It is certainly a very interesting picture.
>
> The subject and narrative method of the picture is served well by the 
> particular mix of prominent textures together with raytraced tidiness. It 
> procuces a slightly surreal, mental reality for the picture.
>
> The texture of the pavements primarily, and the leaves secondarily, play a 
> complex role.  They serve to give the picture realism through specificity. 
> But, the person walking is just as insulated from their direct tactile 
> presence as he/she is from their visual presence. Yet,... yet, it is 
> precisely the tactile feedback from the cane that guides the person.  It 
> makes a very poignant sequence of contradictions.
>
> The frozen fall of the leaves, the person's stride, and the momentary 
> suspension of the cane just before it touches, drives the narrative or 
> story of the picture.  That about to touch moment shown with the cane is 
> the literal and figurative center point.
>
> The leaves are more difficult to understand.  I think this is the reason 
> some commentors have pointed to their scale or color as being not quite 
> fitting.  Those points aside, they still add ambiguity.  Are they falling, 
> or being blown?  If I understood you, they are intended to symbolize 
> everything that eludes the cognitive grasp of the blind?  And more so 
> because they might reveal themselves briefly when accidently touching the 
> skin?  Taking that into consideration they deliver a stark message.  It is 
> a beautiful and powerful metaphor.  One wonders if it might be pushed 
> further.  But maybe not.

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