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From: Tek
Subject: Elements
Date: 10 Nov 2005 00:23:55
Message: <4372d96b@news.povray.org>
Posted here for the benefit of anyone not looking at the IRTC. (And because 
I'm too impatient to wait for voting to end before I get comments on it!)

Okay, although I'm very pleased with this image, I didn't think it was all 
that amazing. However it has so far fooled 3 people at work into thinking it 
was a photo! (these are computer games professionals, not laymen). In 
fairness none of these people were paying much attention, they just saw it 
on my screen and wondered where it is in the world. But still it's the first 
time I've had that reaction to one of my images :)

So, I submit it to you folks as a curiosity. Fool your friends, be the life 
of the party, etc.

Comments/critiques welcome.
-- 
Tek
http://evilsuperbrain.com


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From: Tek
Subject: Re: Elements
Date: 10 Nov 2005 00:30:37
Message: <4372dafd$1@news.povray.org>
Would you like source with that, sir?

Available on this page of my website (and on the IRTC too):
http://evilsuperbrain.com/gallery/finished/index.php?image=elements

-- 
Tek
http://evilsuperbrain.com


"Tek" <tek### [at] evilsuperbraincom> wrote in message 
news:4372d96b@news.povray.org...
> Posted here for the benefit of anyone not looking at the IRTC. (And 
> because I'm too impatient to wait for voting to end before I get comments 
> on it!)
>
> Okay, although I'm very pleased with this image, I didn't think it was all 
> that amazing. However it has so far fooled 3 people at work into thinking 
> it was a photo! (these are computer games professionals, not laymen). In 
> fairness none of these people were paying much attention, they just saw it 
> on my screen and wondered where it is in the world. But still it's the 
> first time I've had that reaction to one of my images :)
>
> So, I submit it to you folks as a curiosity. Fool your friends, be the 
> life of the party, etc.
>
> Comments/critiques welcome.
> -- 
> Tek
> http://evilsuperbrain.com
>
>
>


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From: Stefan Viljoen
Subject: Re: Elements
Date: 10 Nov 2005 00:50:55
Message: <4372dfbe@news.povray.org>
Tek spake:

> Would you like source with that, sir?
> 
> Available on this page of my website (and on the IRTC too):
> http://evilsuperbrain.com/gallery/finished/index.php?image=elements

Incredible - looked like a photo to me too! Can't find anything technical
IMO that gives it away, except that fire does not burn in seawater, unless
some potassium dropped in there, o'course... 

Very well done - definitely good enough for the IRTC, maybe even to win?
Would get my vote.
-- 
Stefan Viljoen
Software Support Technician / Programmer
Polar Design Solutions


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From: Rick Measham
Subject: Re: Elements
Date: 10 Nov 2005 01:19:57
Message: <4372e68d@news.povray.org>
Tek wrote:
> Comments/critiques welcome.

Realism is fantastic .. however I'm not so keen on the composition .. 
including the fire in the foreground would lead me to expect that it 
would be in focus .. as it's slightly out, I feel that the whole photo 
is out (until I look)

I'd prefer the fire to be focussed and the dino-rock to be slightly out.

Cheers!
Rick Measham


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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: Elements
Date: 10 Nov 2005 03:06:22
Message: <4372ff7e@news.povray.org>
"Tek" <tek### [at] evilsuperbraincom> schreef in bericht
news:4372d96b@news.povray.org...
> Posted here for the benefit of anyone not looking at the IRTC. (And
because
> I'm too impatient to wait for voting to end before I get comments on it!)
>

It is an original interpretation of the four elements, Tek. The fire burning
in the water is a bit strange, but in the alchemist concept perhaps not
entirely unusual?
Well done!!

Thomas


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From: Tek
Subject: Re: Elements
Date: 10 Nov 2005 04:31:57
Message: <4373138d$1@news.povray.org>
Well most of the wood's above the water level, my thinking is that the tide 
is coming in, about to put the fire out.

-- 
Tek
http://evilsuperbrain.com

"Thomas de Groot" <t.d### [at] internlnet> wrote in message 
news:4372ff7e@news.povray.org...
>
> "Tek" <tek### [at] evilsuperbraincom> schreef in bericht
> news:4372d96b@news.povray.org...
>> Posted here for the benefit of anyone not looking at the IRTC. (And
> because
>> I'm too impatient to wait for voting to end before I get comments on it!)
>>
>
> It is an original interpretation of the four elements, Tek. The fire 
> burning
> in the water is a bit strange, but in the alchemist concept perhaps not
> entirely unusual?
> Well done!!
>
> Thomas
>
>


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From: scott
Subject: Re: Elements
Date: 10 Nov 2005 05:57:25
Message: <43732795@news.povray.org>
"Tek" <tek### [at] evilsuperbraincom> wrote in message
news:4373138d$1@news.povray.org
> Well most of the wood's above the water level, my thinking is that
> the tide is coming in, about to put the fire out.

That's what I thought of too, but then wouldn't there be some steam/smoke 
coming off the bottom?


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From: Orchid XP v2
Subject: Re: Elements
Date: 10 Nov 2005 06:00:22
Message: <43732846$1@news.povray.org>
Interesting...

The wood doesn't seem to be on fire, despite being surrounded by it. And 
the flames don't seem to cast any light on the surrounding rocks. But 
other than that...

Actually, that's the best CG flames I've ever seen. How did you do that?


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From: Bill Pragnell
Subject: Re: Elements
Date: 10 Nov 2005 06:35:01
Message: <web.43732ff8af2812b6731f01d10@news.povray.org>
I have to second the above - certainly the most photo-realistic raytrace
I've ever seen! Personally, I like the slight blurred effect - it makes it
more real. Perfectly focused and framed photographs are very difficult to
take - the blur is suggestive of the flames' dancing and the waves rolling
in, and also hides that crisp 'CG' look that so many otherwise incredible
images possess.

Now that I come to think about it, most 'nice' effects obtained using
photography are actually artifacts of an imperfect recording - the quest
for photo-realism is a matter of hunting down lens and film glitches. And
then shooting them, stuffing them and mounting them so they look pretty
hanging on the wall.

With regard to the flames in water - could be firewood soaked in gasoline?
:)

Bill, not worthy


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From: Tek
Subject: Re: Elements
Date: 10 Nov 2005 12:58:56
Message: <43738a60$1@news.povray.org>
Yeah that's kinda my thoughts on the subject too: When you take a photo you 
go to great lengths to avoid these errors, but when it's CG you should 
intentionally create them so it loses the perfection people expect in CG :)

-- 
Tek
http://evilsuperbrain.com

"Bill Pragnell" <bil### [at] hotmailcom> wrote in message 
news:web.43732ff8af2812b6731f01d10@news.povray.org...
>I have to second the above - certainly the most photo-realistic raytrace
> I've ever seen! Personally, I like the slight blurred effect - it makes it
> more real. Perfectly focused and framed photographs are very difficult to
> take - the blur is suggestive of the flames' dancing and the waves rolling
> in, and also hides that crisp 'CG' look that so many otherwise incredible
> images possess.
>
> Now that I come to think about it, most 'nice' effects obtained using
> photography are actually artifacts of an imperfect recording - the quest
> for photo-realism is a matter of hunting down lens and film glitches. And
> then shooting them, stuffing them and mounting them so they look pretty
> hanging on the wall.
>
> With regard to the flames in water - could be firewood soaked in gasoline?
> :)
>
> Bill, not worthy
>


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