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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: Candles on the water
Date: 4 May 2005 03:02:35
Message: <4278738b@news.povray.org>
"Gail Shaw" <gsh### [at] sentechsacom> schreef in bericht
news:4277ccfb@news.povray.org...
> An idea I got the other day that refused to leave until rendered.
>
> Hope you like
>
> Gail
>
Yes, I love this scene too.
One thing that bothers me: in the middle, are there two candles exactly one
behind the other? The flame seems doubled....

Thomas


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From: Marneus Calgar
Subject: Re: Candles on the water
Date: 4 May 2005 03:11:50
Message: <427875b6$1@news.povray.org>

> An idea I got the other day that refused to leave until rendered.
> 
> Hope you like
> 
> Gail
> 

Great !!!!! Wonderful !

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http://www.darkskull.net

A+


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From: Rune
Subject: Re: Candles on the water
Date: 4 May 2005 04:26:20
Message: <4278872c@news.povray.org>
Very beautiful!

However, somehow the flames don't look very warm to me. They're missing a 
slight glow IMHO. The attached image shows the flames with post-processed 
glows, and I think it makes them look more like flames. I'm not sure what 
would be the best way to achieve such glows from inside POV-Ray though.

Rune
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From: Gail Shaw
Subject: Re: Candles on the water
Date: 4 May 2005 11:53:17
Message: <4278efed@news.povray.org>
"scott" <spa### [at] spamcom> wrote in message news:4277dd36$1@news.povray.org...
>
> Lovely!
>
> The candles themselves look great, is that using media?

Yes. I found a whole lot of discussion and examples of sub-surface
scattering on these groups and played until I have something that looked
good.


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From: Gail Shaw
Subject: Re: Candles on the water
Date: 4 May 2005 11:54:09
Message: <4278f021@news.povray.org>
"Thomas de Groot" <t.d### [at] internlnet> wrote in message
news:4278738b@news.povray.org...
> >
> Yes, I love this scene too.
> One thing that bothers me: in the middle, are there two candles exactly
one
> behind the other? The flame seems doubled....
>

Yes there are. The candle placement is random and I liked the other
placements too much to play any more with the random seed.


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From: Gail Shaw
Subject: Re: Candles on the water
Date: 4 May 2005 12:05:38
Message: <4278f2d2@news.povray.org>
"Rune" <run### [at] runevisioncom> wrote in message
news:4278872c@news.povray.org...
> Very beautiful!
>
> However, somehow the flames don't look very warm to me. They're missing a
> slight glow IMHO. The attached image shows the flames with post-processed
> glows, and I think it makes them look more like flames. I'm not sure what
> would be the best way to achieve such glows from inside POV-Ray though.
>

Mayba another media. The flames are a sphere with an object pattern density,
so it shouldn't be too hard
to add a second media to the container, much dimmer with a spherical
density.

I'll give it a try and see howe it looks.


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From: Gail Shaw
Subject: Re: Candles on the water
Date: 4 May 2005 12:14:03
Message: <4278f4cb@news.povray.org>
"Rune" <run### [at] runevisioncom> wrote in message
news:4278872c@news.povray.org...
> Very beautiful!
>
> However, somehow the flames don't look very warm to me. They're missing a
> slight glow IMHO. The attached image shows the flames with post-processed
> glows, and I think it makes them look more like flames. I'm not sure what
> would be the best way to achieve such glows from inside POV-Ray though.
>

btw, how did you do the post-processed glows?


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From: Rune
Subject: Re: Candles on the water
Date: 4 May 2005 16:18:48
Message: <42792e28$1@news.povray.org>
Gail Shaw wrote:
> btw, how did you do the post-processed glows?

I used Paint Shop Pro 5.

I selected the flames and pasted them onto a new layer. (Selecting the 
flames is pretty easy when they're on a black background. Make small 
rectangular selections around each flame (use Shift to add to the 
selection), then subtract all the black parts from the selection at once by 
using the magic wand on the black background while holding down Ctrl.) While 
selecting with the magic wand, you may need to experiment with the tolerance 
and feather settings.

I applied gaussian blur on the new flames layer and set the layer blend mode 
to 'Screen' and adjusted the transparency of the layer. That creates a small 
bright glow.

I then copied the flames layer and blurred this new layer even more and made 
it more transparent - i.e. to get bigger but more vague glows on top of the 
other glows.

That's it.

Rune
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From: dlm
Subject: Re: Candles on the water
Date: 4 May 2005 21:13:20
Message: <42797330@news.povray.org>
Beautiful!
Wickless candles?
Foregound candle shows front and back lip with nothing between.
DLM

"Rune" <run### [at] runevisioncom> wrote in message 
news:4278872c@news.povray.org...
> Very beautiful!
>
> However, somehow the flames don't look very warm to me. They're missing a 
> slight glow IMHO. The attached image shows the flames with post-processed 
> glows, and I think it makes them look more like flames. I'm not sure what 
> would be the best way to achieve such glows from inside POV-Ray though.
>
> Rune
> -- 
> 3D images and anims, include files, tutorials and more:
> rune|vision:  http://runevision.com
> POV-Ray Ring: http://webring.povray.co.uk
>
>


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From: Gail Shaw
Subject: Re: Candles on the water
Date: 5 May 2005 12:38:09
Message: <427a4bf1@news.povray.org>
"dlm" <me### [at] addressinvalid> wrote in message news:42797330@news.povray.org...
> Beautiful!

Thanks

> Wickless candles?

Yup. Someone noticed *grin*. I kept meaning to add wicks, never got round to
it, and no one ever noticed before that there were no wicks (or if they did,
didn't comment, whick is unlikely for my friends)

> Foregound candle shows front and back lip with nothing between.

No, there is stuff between. Candle goes /\----/\ (or kinda like that)

Gail


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