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From: lenx
Subject: Re: Boreal WIP (272 KB)
Date: 27 Jul 2004 14:42:17
Message: <4106a209$1@news.povray.org>
Norbert Kern wrote:
> I want to finish this WIP, but how?
> Starting from an atmosphere test (thanks to Abe for the starting point), the
> scene quickly developed to an half-finished state.
> Recently Gilles Tran motivated me to start working on it again after showing
> an earlier version to him along the way.
> The rock and the dead mossy tree are still likely to be changed.
> 
> Two questions:
> - The image seems to lack something - but what? I already added and deleted
> several animals, they didn't seem to fit.
> - Is the picture bright enough? I have three different LCD monitors, all
> with different Gamma. I want to collect other opinions.
> 
> Eventually the final picture will be rendered in 3000+ pixels and will take
> at least six weeks on two computers.
> 
> 
> Norbert Kern
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
this is realy nice! but indeed, there is like something missing, hard to 
describe. to me, the image seems rather flat. the trees are stunning but 
they don't create enough dept. i thing you need more perspective in your 
render. also the colors seem a little high contrasted. it's strong green 
against strong blue, try adding some other colors in whatever way. good 
image !


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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: Boreal WIP (272 KB)
Date: 27 Jul 2004 16:41:38
Message: <4106be02$1@news.povray.org>
Norbert Kern wrote:
> I don't know, what you mean; Can you help me?

Sorry. That was a joke. A reference to Snoopy (from the Peanuts comic 
strip) and the Red Baron.


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From: Norbert Kern
Subject: Re: Boreal WIP (272 KB)
Date: 27 Jul 2004 19:54:37
Message: <4106eb3d@news.povray.org>
"St." <dot### [at] dotcom> schrieb im Newsbeitrag news:41059acf@news.povray.org...

>    If you look closely at the blue background, is there some forest
> there too? Very faint. I think so, (I hope).


Yes there is a not so distant hill with forest.
I'll change it to be more recognizable.
A quick render shows the new version.


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From: Norbert Kern
Subject: Re: Boreal WIP (272 KB)
Date: 27 Jul 2004 20:31:22
Message: <4106f3da$1@news.povray.org>
"lenx" <len### [at] pandorabe> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
news:4106a209$1@news.povray.org...

> this is realy nice! but indeed, there is like something missing, hard to
> describe. to me, the image seems rather flat. the trees are stunning but
> they don't create enough dept. i thing you need more perspective in your
> render. also the colors seem a little high contrasted. it's strong green
> against strong blue, try adding some other colors in whatever way. good
> image !

You are right, yellow and red colors are underrepresented.
This is the only reason I left the plane in place. But what else?

Norbert Kern


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From: Norbert Kern
Subject: Re: Boreal WIP (272 KB)
Date: 27 Jul 2004 20:36:37
Message: <4106f515@news.povray.org>
"SomeOne" <ask### [at] yahoocouknospam> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
news:4105f2f9$1@news.povray.org...

> The image looks great to me. Personally I'd lose the plane. It doesn't
look in
> place. It looks as if you placed the plane exactly there so it wouldn't be
> behind any trees. You might want to try moving it a bit to the left, so it
is
> partially covered by the trees. IMHO, also animals aren't needed.


I need the plane only to have a red spot.
If there is an alternative, I'ld let it crash.


Norebrt Kern


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From: Abe
Subject: Re: Boreal WIP (272 KB)
Date: 28 Jul 2004 05:50:00
Message: <web.41077694b87a50fa279489e0@news.povray.org>
I really like the feel of this image. I've wanted to do something like this
for a a while (forrest w/ ferns sort of thing), although I don't think I
would have come up with some of the touches you did. I also think you have
good aerial perspective working here.

For what its worth, I'll put my thoughts along with everyone elses:

Lowering the plane slightly into the top third of the image might bring it a
little more into focus. Also opening the trees a touch around it to create
a frame  might help.

Bring something into the lower part of the image to balance the red plane (a
subtle red tinted bird whatching it?).

Anyway, thanks for showing it - I've enjoyed it!

Abe


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From: Norbert Kern
Subject: Re: Boreal WIP (272 KB)
Date: 28 Jul 2004 12:47:31
Message: <4107d8a3@news.povray.org>
"Abe" <bul### [at] taconicnet> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
news:web.41077694b87a50fa279489e0@news.povray.org...
> I really like the feel of this image. I've wanted to do something like
this
> for a a while (forrest w/ ferns sort of thing), although I don't think I
> would have come up with some of the touches you did. I also think you have
> good aerial perspective working here.

I love your images and you should try building some complete scenes.
And I would love to see more of your code.
As I said, I learned from you
(http://news.povray.org/povray.binaries.images/message/%3Cweb.3e8c22222831a9
513f8e7b2e0%40news.povray.org%3E/#%3Cweb.3e8c22222831a9513f8e7b2e0%40news.po
vray.org%3E).

What I did was to replace it with -

 #declare h_strength = 0.0005;
box {
        -1,1
        hollow
        scale <1000,400,1000>
        pigment {rgbt 1}
        interior {
                media {
                        scattering {3 rgb h_strength*<0.2,0.25,1>*0.25
extinction 0}
                        absorption rgb h_strength
                        method 2
                }
        }
}


> For what its worth, I'll put my thoughts along with everyone elses:
>
> Lowering the plane slightly into the top third of the image might bring it
a
> little more into focus. Also opening the trees a touch around it to create
> a frame  might help.
>
> Bring something into the lower part of the image to balance the red plane
(a
> subtle red tinted bird whatching it?).

I'll try it, seems to introduce a surrealistic touch.


> Anyway, thanks for showing it - I've enjoyed it!

Thank you,

Norbert Kern


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From: Jaime Vives Piqueres
Subject: Re: Boreal WIP (272 KB)
Date: 30 Jul 2004 03:46:29
Message: <4109fcd5@news.povray.org>
Norbert Kern wrote:
> Two questions:
> - The image seems to lack something - but what? I already added and deleted
> several animals, they didn't seem to fit.

   I think there is like a missing zone between the foreground trees and 
the background ones. I would expect the trees to disappear more gradually.

> - Is the picture bright enough? I have three different LCD monitors, all
> with different Gamma. I want to collect other opinions.

   Perhaps it's a little bit washed on my screen...

   Overall, it's a beautiful composition. The atmosphere is very good, 
almost what I expect for that kind of forest.

--
Jaime Vives Piqueres

http://www.ignorancia.org/


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From: SomeOne
Subject: Re: Boreal WIP (272 KB)
Date: 30 Jul 2004 12:21:39
Message: <410a7593$1@news.povray.org>
Norbert Kern wrote:
>> "SomeOne" <ask### [at] yahoocouknospam> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
>> news:4105f2f9$1@news.povray.org...
>>
>>> The image looks great to me. Personally I'd lose the plane. It
[...]
>>
>> I need the plane only to have a red spot.
>> If there is an alternative, I'ld let it crash.

... Have you considered using a single plant with a red flower somewhere
between the trees on the right?

-- 
Maurice

Quote of the minute:
Xerox and Wurlitzer:  They're going to make reproductive organs.


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From: Mark Jeghers
Subject: Re: Boreal WIP (272 KB)
Date: 8 Aug 2004 01:51:38
Message: <4115bf6a$1@news.povray.org>
Very very nice, except I'd lose the plane altogether.  It just distracts for
me and my wife.  Maybe you could have two versions, one with plane,
one without :-)

"Norbert Kern" <nor### [at] t-onlinede> wrote in message
news:41054fa9@news.povray.org...
> I want to finish this WIP, but how?
> Starting from an atmosphere test (thanks to Abe for the starting point),
the
> scene quickly developed to an half-finished state.
> Recently Gilles Tran motivated me to start working on it again after
showing
> an earlier version to him along the way.
> The rock and the dead mossy tree are still likely to be changed.
>
> Two questions:
> - The image seems to lack something - but what? I already added and
deleted
> several animals, they didn't seem to fit.
> - Is the picture bright enough? I have three different LCD monitors, all
> with different Gamma. I want to collect other opinions.
>
> Eventually the final picture will be rendered in 3000+ pixels and will
take
> at least six weeks on two computers.
>
>
> Norbert Kern
>
>
>
>
>
>


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