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From: Xplo Eristotle
Subject: Re: Kotoji [142kb jpg - WIP]
Date: 30 Mar 2004 12:57:50
Message: <4069b51e@news.povray.org>
Bill Hails wrote:
> Following what seems to be a trend I'm also trying to get
> to grips with radiosity.
> 
> It would be disingenious of me not to point out that the
> furthest backdrop of trees behind the far bank and reflected
> in the lake *is* a photo. Other than that it's all my own
> macros, textures and csg, uses Radiosity_OutdoorLQ and no
> conventional lighting.

Your shadows are too soft.. you need a lower error_bound. Use a 
higher-quality radiosity setting, or lower it manually (less than .3 
should work well).

The photo doesn't quite blend with the render, but I'm not sure what 
would fix that short of modeling the background.

Nice picture, though, all the same. :o

-Xplo


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From: Bill Hails
Subject: Re: Kotoji [142kb jpg - WIP]
Date: 30 Mar 2004 15:47:24
Message: <4069dcdc@news.povray.org>
Xplo Eristotle wrote:

> Bill Hails wrote:
>> Following what seems to be a trend I'm also trying to get
>> to grips with radiosity.
>> 
>> It would be disingenious of me not to point out that the
>> furthest backdrop of trees behind the far bank and reflected
>> in the lake *is* a photo. Other than that it's all my own
>> macros, textures and csg, uses Radiosity_OutdoorLQ and no
>> conventional lighting.
> 
> Your shadows are too soft.. you need a lower error_bound. Use a
> higher-quality radiosity setting, or lower it manually (less than .3
> should work well).

Thanks, I'm re-reading the radiosity tutorial from the manual
and looking through rad_def.inc, probably Radiosity_OutdoorHQ
will fit the bill, but I have a high ambient white sphere just
out of shot to the left and may need to adjust for that.

> The photo doesn't quite blend with the render, but I'm not sure what
> would fix that short of modeling the background.

I have a separate photo just behind the camera to provide an
environment map, I've switched to use the same image as the
backdrop, that may help the blending.

I originally intended to model the whole scene, I still may
do that if this doesn't work out, but it's a lot of work for
something that's not really directly visible.

> Nice picture, though, all the same. :o

thanks.

> 
> -Xplo

-- 
Bill Hails


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From: Dan P
Subject: Re: Kotoji [142kb jpg - WIP]
Date: 30 Mar 2004 19:13:00
Message: <406a0d0c$1@news.povray.org>
Bill Hails wrote:

> Dan P wrote:
> 
> 
>>My god, it is absolutely beautiful!!! That would make a great desktop!!!
>>Beautiful!!!!!!
>>
> Thanks!
> I used a photo from a book for reference, so again I can't claim
> originality in the set design. I can however heartily recommend
> the book for anyone wanting inspiration on all things Japanese:

It makes a great backdrop!

> "japanese detail: architecture" by Sadao Hibi, ISBN: 0811836754
> 
> Also after a quick image search it turns out that this particular
> kotoji is quite famous in Japan, it's in the Kenrokuen Park,
> Kanazawa, Ishikawa. I hope I'm not doing it a dis-service.

I think is it honoring it, like a mural does or a statue. Really nice 
work!!!

-- 
Respectfully,
Dan P
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From: Bill Hails
Subject: Re: Kotoji [142kb jpg - WIP]
Date: 31 Mar 2004 05:23:02
Message: <406a9c06@news.povray.org>
Dan P wrote:

> Bill Hails wrote:
> 
>> Also after a quick image search it turns out that this particular
>> kotoji is quite famous in Japan, it's in the Kenrokuen Park,
>> Kanazawa, Ishikawa. I hope I'm not doing it a dis-service.
> 
> I think is it honoring it, like a mural does or a statue. Really nice
> work!!!
> 

Yeah, If I'd bothered to make the thing accurate :-)

-- 
Bill Hails


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