"Carl Hoff" <hof### [at] wtnet> wrote in message
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> Something looks off about the top of the TV.  Do the planes that form the
> sides not meet up with the plane that forms the top at the back of the TV?

I'm not sure what you're seeing.  The TV is a solid CSG object (a box with a
bunch of stuff diferenced out of it)... no planes involved.

Eric

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I've had planes appear in my CGS's before.  For example if one of the pieces
you differenced out of your box had a co-incident surface with the side of
the box it could leave just that plane sticking out by itself.  Look at the
circled areas in the attached picture.  Why are there wooden teeth sticking
down into the top of the TV?  Is this something sitting on top of the TV?
Maybe I'm just not looking at it correctly but it looks odd to me.

Carl

"Eric Freeman" <whi### [at] yahoocom> wrote in message
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> "Carl Hoff" <hof### [at] wtnet> wrote in message
> news:3fe84833$1@news.povray.org...
> > Something looks off about the top of the TV.  Do the planes that form
the
> > sides not meet up with the plane that forms the top at the back of the
TV?
>
> I'm not sure what you're seeing.  The TV is a solid CSG object (a box with
a
> bunch of stuff diferenced out of it)... no planes involved.
>
> Eric
>
>

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"Carl Hoff" <hof### [at] wtnet> wrote in message news:3fe8df9e@news.povray.org...
> I've had planes appear in my CGS's before.  For example if one
> of the pieces you differenced out of your box had a co-incident
> surface with the side of the box it could leave just that plane
> sticking out by itself.  Look at the circled areas in the attached
> picture.  Why are there wooden teeth sticking down into the top
> of the TV?  Is this something sitting on top of the TV?
> Maybe I'm just not looking at it correctly but it looks odd to me.

I think it's just the lighting.  Here's a close up with brighter lights.
The top of the TV is the top of the grey frame around the picture.  There is
a gap between the top of the TV and the top of the cabinet.  There is a wood
back on the cabinet that can be seen over the top of the TV.

Eric

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"Carl Hoff" <hof### [at] wtnet> wrote in message news:3fe8df9e@news.povray.org...
> I've had planes appear in my CGS's before.  For example if one of the
pieces
> you differenced out of your box had a co-incident surface with the side of
> the box it could leave just that plane sticking out by itself.  Look at
the
> circled areas in the attached picture.  Why are there wooden teeth
sticking
> down into the top of the TV?  Is this something sitting on top of the TV?
> Maybe I'm just not looking at it correctly but it looks odd to me.

Could the proximity of old Rod Sierling explains those phenomenons. After
all he controls the horizontals and verticals of our TV screens, I bet he
could do it with a monitors too ^________^

Jean-luc: "I've never used CSG in my life!" -__-

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-- 
Jeremy
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> > "Eric Freeman" <whi### [at] yahoocom> wrote in message
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> > >
> > > If I make it too transparent, the lampshade doesn't look
> > > right.  If I make it less transparent, not enough lite gets
> > > thru.
> >
> > Could fake it using a lens flare effect, placed between the
> > camera and lampshade.
>
> Hmmmmmm.....
>

Gilles made a pretty good lamp which you can see here, and download the
source as well.
http://www.oyonale.com/ressources/english/sources10.htm
I'm not saying you should replace the lamp, but it may give you some ideas
from the source.  But with the lamp turned on, it takes a looooong time to
render, so keep that in mind.

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The 'teeth' (for lack of a better word) are still there and it doesn't
look like the lighting to me.  Could you render just the TV by itself
against a white background?  I tend to think its a co-incident surface
artifact.

Carl

"Eric Freeman" <whi### [at] yahoocom> wrote in message
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> "Carl Hoff" <hof### [at] wtnet> wrote in message
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> > I've had planes appear in my CGS's before.  For example if one
> > of the pieces you differenced out of your box had a co-incident
> > surface with the side of the box it could leave just that plane
> > sticking out by itself.  Look at the circled areas in the attached
> > picture.  Why are there wooden teeth sticking down into the top
> > of the TV?  Is this something sitting on top of the TV?
> > Maybe I'm just not looking at it correctly but it looks odd to me.
>
> I think it's just the lighting.  Here's a close up with brighter lights.
> The top of the TV is the top of the grey frame around the picture.  There
is
> a gap between the top of the TV and the top of the cabinet.  There is a
wood
> back on the cabinet that can be seen over the top of the TV.
>
> Eric
>
>
>

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Program ended abnormally on 23/12/2003 21:00, Due to a catastrophic Eric
Freeman error:

> "Carl Hoff" <hof### [at] wtnet> wrote in message news:3fe8df9e@news.povray.org...
> 
>>I've had planes appear in my CGS's before.  For example if one
>>of the pieces you differenced out of your box had a co-incident
>>surface with the side of the box it could leave just that plane
>>sticking out by itself.  Look at the circled areas in the attached
>>picture.  Why are there wooden teeth sticking down into the top
>>of the TV?  Is this something sitting on top of the TV?
>>Maybe I'm just not looking at it correctly but it looks odd to me.
> 
> 
> I think it's just the lighting.  Here's a close up with brighter lights.
> The top of the TV is the top of the grey frame around the picture.  There is
> a gap between the top of the TV and the top of the cabinet.  There is a wood
> back on the cabinet that can be seen over the top of the TV.
> 
> Eric

Is the top of your TV shiny?  I agree with Carl, there seems to be something 
wrong...  To me the outline of the TV looks like this:


-- 
/*Francois Labreque*/#local a=x+y;#local b=x+a;#local c=a+b;#macro P(F//
/*    flabreque    */L)polygon{5,F,F+z,L+z,L,F pigment{rgb 9}}#end union
/*        @        */{P(0,a)P(a,b)P(b,c)P(2*a,2*b)P(2*b,b+c)P(b+c,<2,3>)
/*   videotron.ca  */}camera{orthographic location<6,1.25,-6>look_at a }

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Thanks... atleast I now know its NOT just me seeing things.

Carl

"Francois Labreque" <fla### [at] videotronca> wrote in message
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> Is the top of your TV shiny?  I agree with Carl, there seems to be
something
> wrong...  To me the outline of the TV looks like this:

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"Carl Hoff" <hof### [at] wtnet> wrote in message news:3fe9e884@news.povray.org...
>
> "Francois Labreque" <fla### [at] videotronca> wrote in message
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> >
> > Is the top of your TV shiny?  I agree with Carl, there seems to be
> > something wrong...  To me the outline of the TV looks like this:
>
> Thanks... atleast I now know its NOT just me seeing things.

I found the problem... a misplaced bounded_by/clipped_by statement.  I would
have never spotted it... thanx dudz.  One day I'll finish this pic (the back
of tv isn't contoured like the real thing... it's just a box).

Eric

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>
>
> If I make it too transparent, the lampshade doesn't look right.  If I make
> it less transparent, not enough lite gets thru.
>
Did you try double_illuminate ?

Marc

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