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From: Jeremy M  Praay
Subject: 19th century schoolhouse [WIP]
Date: 16 Dec 2003 11:20:37
Message: <3fdf30d5$1@news.povray.org>
I'm not very far along, but I thought I'd post this anyway.

www.beantoad.com/NewImages/school8.jpg

These days, lighting and finishes seem to be causing me the most
head-scratching, so I haven't really done much with those at this point.
But I'm not 100% happy with the textures either, so I imagine I'll be
working on them more and more as well.

I used my new Poser 5 "Penny" model to look out the window.  She's barely
visible at this resolution, which is probably good.  I tried putting her
behind the glass, but she looked like a barely visible purple blob, hence I
invented sliding-windows.

Still a ton of things to do, including shingling the roof.  But it's finally
starting to look like it's coming along.

-- 
Jeremy


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From: Dave Matthews
Subject: Re: 19th century schoolhouse [WIP]
Date: 16 Dec 2003 13:30:02
Message: <web.3fdf4e0e8f8628e8062416c0@news.povray.org>
Jeremy M. Praay wrote:
>But it's finally starting to look like it's coming along.

I'll say.  I really like the bricks.  I'm also impressed with the arched
brickwork at the top of the windows.

Dave Matthews


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From: gonzo
Subject: Re: 19th century schoolhouse [WIP]
Date: 16 Dec 2003 16:15:03
Message: <web.3fdf75008f8628ea0c272b50@news.povray.org>
Jeremy M. Praay wrote:
>I'm not very far along, but I thought I'd post this anyway.
>
>www.beantoad.com/NewImages/school8.jpg

Nice brickwork & windows!  The demarcation of wall & foundation looks funny
to me, isn't there usually a row of differently laid bricks or something
where the color changes?

RG


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From: Jim Charter
Subject: Re: 19th century schoolhouse [WIP]
Date: 16 Dec 2003 16:26:58
Message: <3fdf78a2$1@news.povray.org>
Very nice.  Are the window casements generated from the brick macro?


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From: Jeremy M  Praay
Subject: Re: 19th century schoolhouse [WIP]
Date: 16 Dec 2003 17:05:50
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"gonzo" <rgo### [at] lansetcom> wrote in message
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> Nice brickwork & windows!

Thanks!  :-)

> The demarcation of wall & foundation looks funny
> to me, isn't there usually a row of differently laid bricks or something
> where the color changes?
>

The actual building has some bricks that stick out about 1/4-brick-depth
from the edge just a little-bit above the foundation.  You must know more
about such things than I do.  I wouldn't figure that anyone would pick up on
that.  Good eye!

BTW, here's one of the reference pictures that I'm using:
http://www.beantoad.com/NewImages/dcp_0045.jpg

-- 
Jeremy


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From: Jeremy M  Praay
Subject: Re: 19th century schoolhouse [WIP]
Date: 16 Dec 2003 17:08:42
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"Dave Matthews" <dma### [at] wrmnwestmnscuedu> wrote in message
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> Jeremy M. Praay wrote:
> >But it's finally starting to look like it's coming along.
>
> I'll say.  I really like the bricks.  I'm also impressed with the arched
> brickwork at the top of the windows.
>


Thanks!  Doing the brick arch took me about 3 hours to get right, but I'm
very happy with the end-result.

Incidentally, the windows are backwards. The bottom window should be inside,
and the top outside.  I fixed that last night, but never rendered a new
image.

-- 
Jeremy


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From: Jeremy M  Praay
Subject: Re: 19th century schoolhouse [WIP]
Date: 16 Dec 2003 17:19:34
Message: <3fdf84f6$1@news.povray.org>
"Jim Charter" <jrc### [at] msncom> wrote in message
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> Very nice.  Are the window casements generated from the brick macro?

Thanks!  :-)

Yes, the window-arches are the same iso-surface bricks that make up the
entire building.  I made a special macro just for the arches.  It's not a
very portable macro, but it worked well enough for my specific purpose.  A
more portable macro would probably include the number of bricks to use,
radius of the inside and outside portion and maybe a cut-off angle.

I've spent quite a bit of time on this, and will probably continue to do so.
I actually went to the old school and measured the bricks to make sure that
I was keeping this realistic, and I've counted the bricks between windows,
etc.  It's not going to be EXACT, but I hope to have a model (and scene)
that's good enough for people in this area to look at it and say, "Hey,
that's the old school on Colony Road."  That would make my day.

-- 
Jeremy


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From: Jim Charter
Subject: Re: 19th century schoolhouse [WIP]
Date: 16 Dec 2003 17:37:27
Message: <3fdf8927$1@news.povray.org>
Jeremy M. Praay wrote:

> etc.  It's not going to be EXACT, but I hope to have a model (and scene)
> that's good enough for people in this area to look at it and say, "Hey,
> that's the old school on Colony Road."  That would make my day.
> 
Old school houses exert a real attraction.  I think the meaning might be 
different for everyone.  There was an abandoned schoolhouse near where I 
grew up.  I would see it as I rode with my parents, to-ing and fro-ing. 
  I would have fantasies about living in it or having and artist's 
studio in it.  Then one year someone actually bought it and fixed it up 
to live in.  The person was rumored to be an artist.  I was green with 
envy.  Felt like my very fantasy had been stolen.  Currently I share a 
studio in an old schoolhouse nearby.  Four stories walkup with very high 
ceilings.  Sweaty but charming.


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From: Tim Riley
Subject: Re: 19th century schoolhouse [WIP]
Date: 16 Dec 2003 17:48:08
Message: <3fdf8ba8$1@news.povray.org>
Jeremy M. Praay wrote:
> BTW, here's one of the reference pictures that I'm using:
> http://www.beantoad.com/NewImages/dcp_0045.jpg

That's not the original roofing. Those are T-Loc shingles which were first 
introduced in the late-50's or early-60's. Good for windy areas (mine have held 
up to 30+ years of 100+ mph winds) but definitely not original to the building.

If you really need to know:

http://www.tamko.com/res/tam/tam.htm


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From: Jeremy M  Praay
Subject: Re: 19th century schoolhouse [WIP]
Date: 16 Dec 2003 18:51:49
Message: <3fdf9a95$1@news.povray.org>
Thanks, that's some good information to know.  I had guessed that the
building was abandoned in about 1940, just judging from how some of the
structure has deteriorated.  But the roof still seems to be in quite good
shape.

Those metal bars on the side of the structure, I'm also guessing were added
quite a bit later.  I would figure that they're helping to hold the brick
wall together.  So I'm not planning to include them in my model.

I forgot to mention here that the white sqaure at the top front of the
building says that it was built in 1873.  I emailed the local historical
society to see if they have any old pictures of the school.  It would be
nice to have a reference picture from, say, 1890.  But they haven't
responded, so far.

-- 
Jeremy
"Tim Riley" <tim### [at] netscapenet> wrote in message
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> Jeremy M. Praay wrote:
> > BTW, here's one of the reference pictures that I'm using:
> > http://www.beantoad.com/NewImages/dcp_0045.jpg
>
> That's not the original roofing. Those are T-Loc shingles which were first
> introduced in the late-50's or early-60's. Good for windy areas (mine have
held
> up to 30+ years of 100+ mph winds) but definitely not original to the
building.
>
> If you really need to know:
>
> http://www.tamko.com/res/tam/tam.htm
>


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