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From: Aaron Gillies
Subject: Seascape II -- Thanks (~50k)
Date: 26 Aug 2003 23:51:35
Message: <3f4c2ac7@news.povray.org>
Thanks to Mick, Mike, Chris and DT for the help!

Attached is a WIP showing what I've been able to accomplish
so far using the normal value set by the trace function to place
greenery on a landscape based on the slope of the terrain.

Thanks again, guys ...

Aaron


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From: Aaron Gillies
Subject: Re: Seascape II -- Thanks (~50k)
Date: 26 Aug 2003 23:52:59
Message: <3f4c2b1b$1@news.povray.org>
Oh ... and for Stephan from Klippan ... it is a compressed JPEG.

Aaron


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From: Aaron Gillies
Subject: Re: Seascape II -- Thanks (~50k)
Date: 27 Aug 2003 00:46:40
Message: <3f4c37b0@news.povray.org>
Here is one with slightly improved foliage.  And I realized that I
misspelled Stefan in the previous post.


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From: Chris Johnson
Subject: Re: Seascape II -- Thanks (~50k)
Date: 27 Aug 2003 06:53:24
Message: <3f4c8da4@news.povray.org>
This is really good. A couple of comments:

The sea could be less reflective, and have some much smaller bumps (on the
sub-pixel level). The reflections of the islands are a bit too glassy and
smooth, I think.

The colour of the rock could be changed to a darker, browner shade under the
waterline?

Very impressive overall, though

-Chris


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From: Aaron Gillies
Subject: Re: Seascape II -- Thanks (~50k)
Date: 27 Aug 2003 07:55:29
Message: <3f4c9c31$1@news.povray.org>
Thanks for the feedback.  I agree with both of your suggestions!
The problem is ... I don't know exactly how to make it look right yet. :)

Anyone out there (Chris?) know how to make realistic looking surf?

Aaron


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From: Marc Champagne
Subject: Re: Seascape II -- Thanks (~50k) - 1 attachment
Date: 27 Aug 2003 07:56:50
Message: <Xns93E450734DD55POVMIKA@204.213.191.226>
"Aaron Gillies" <no### [at] nospamcom> wrote in news:3f4c37b0@news.povray.org:

> Here is one with slightly improved foliage.  And I realized that I
> misspelled Stefan in the previous post.

Reminded me of something I did many moons ago....(may 1994)

-- 
(MIKA) Marc Champagne
marcch.AT.videotron.DOT.ca
Montreal, CANADA


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From: Marc Jacquier
Subject: Re: Seascape II -- Thanks (~50k)
Date: 27 Aug 2003 09:43:18
Message: <3f4cb576@news.povray.org>
Have a look at the MakeCloud2 sea demo scene by Gilles Tran especially the
Sea section begining line 439
http://www.oyonale.com/ressources/english/sources13.htm

Marc


3f4c9c31$1@news.povray.org...
> Thanks for the feedback.  I agree with both of your suggestions!
> The problem is ... I don't know exactly how to make it look right yet. :)
>
> Anyone out there (Chris?) know how to make realistic looking surf?
>
> Aaron
>
>


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From: Chris Johnson
Subject: Re: Seascape II -- Thanks (~50k)
Date: 27 Aug 2003 12:38:22
Message: <3f4cde7e$1@news.povray.org>
As well as Marc's link to Gilles Tran's page, I would recommend Christoph
Hormann's discussion of realistic water at
http://www-public.tu-bs.de:8080/~y0013390/pov/water/index.html.

If you meant by 'surf' the interaction of water and land, the only things I
can think of are a change in the shape of the waves (higher and narrower?)
and a change of texture to a white, non-reflective texture near the
coastline as the water gets shallower. It's pretty difficult to model this
accurately though I think.

-Chris


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From: Aaron Gillies
Subject: Re: Seascape II -- Thanks (~50k)
Date: 27 Aug 2003 12:55:40
Message: <3f4ce28c$1@news.povray.org>
The water that I have going there is based on Christoph's water pages.
The transparency of the water right now uses fade_distance and fade_power,
but I might be able to do better by using a texture with gradient y and
the level of filtration controlled that way.

It would be great to be able to have cresting waves and the like,
or even something that just appears to be like that from a distance.
Could this be done with a height_field as the water?

Aaron


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From: Chris Johnson
Subject: Re: Seascape II -- Thanks (~50k)
Date: 27 Aug 2003 14:07:57
Message: <3f4cf37d@news.povray.org>
-[It would be great to be able to have cresting waves and the like]-
These could be done with a height-field, so long as there was no point where
the waves were actually 'overhanging'. How to make the hightfield could be a
problem - papers do exist about this kind of thing, but from what I've read,
they have to be quite technical to give good results.

-Chris


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