I know that if he is in a public school here, he is likely to be fired, or
his account locked up so he can't get to the POVray newsgroups any more.
Opening a picture such as this even in a class that covers computers and
graphics can result in criminal prosecution.  People in the school system here
are peculiarly bloodthirsty and humorless.
    In principle, I agree that subject matter should not be important, but due
to the circumstances that many people work under, it is nice to have a heads up
just for politeness' sake.  That would be much nicer that getting fired and
charged with showing minors nudity.

Cheers!

Chip Shults
My robotics, space and CGI web page - http://home.cfl.rr.com/aichip

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Sir Charles W. Shults III wrote:
>     In principle, I agree that subject matter should not be important, but due
> to the circumstances that many people work under, it is nice to have a heads up
> just for politeness' sake.  That would be much nicer that getting fired and
> charged with showing minors nudity.

I think it'd make more sense to not use school or work equipment to
read newsgroups, thereby not even raising the issue of being fired or
expelled due to exposure to 'inappropriate' content.

Unless you're doing something directly related to work or school,
there's no reason to be accessing the internet, or even using the
computers at all.

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"Timothy R. Cook" <tim### [at] scifi-fantasycom> wrote in message
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> Sir Charles W. Shults III wrote:
> >     In principle, I agree that subject matter should not be important,
but due
> > to the circumstances that many people work under, it is nice to have a
heads up
> > just for politeness' sake.  That would be much nicer that getting fired
and
> > charged with showing minors nudity.
>
> I think it'd make more sense to not use school or work equipment to
> read newsgroups, thereby not even raising the issue of being fired or
> expelled due to exposure to 'inappropriate' content.

Since, I have one of the top marks in my computer class, my teacher dosen't
mind, and he considers the pov-ray newsgroups educational so it's not like
I'm breaking the rules, and I'm not a minor btw, but I still have to abide
by school rules.

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Kevin
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Your teacher is more wise than many other people. I think it's stupid to
prohibit *all* "fun" things that people can do with school computers. Don't
people know that once per 45 minutes people have to refresh their heads with
something completely non-related? Although I agree with adding (nudity) in
the subject to keep people out of trouble, the whole problem is way beyond
me. I just can't understand why people in general accept commercials for bad
food, violent/sick song lyrics and movies that give people (not just
children) strange ideas. I think that nudity shouldn't a big problem as long
as it doesn't distract people from what things really are about and as long
as noone is going to have strange ideas about anything.

Elvis lives and he was abducted by aliens, most people can deal with kicks
in the faces and everyone is beautiful except for me and the people I know.
;-)

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"Timothy R. Cook" <tim### [at] scifi-fantasycom> wrote in message
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Would it kill to put "(nudity)" in the subject?

Apart from the schools/work issue, many people object to nudity in images on
principle. Whatever we might think of their beliefs and/or regulations (i.e.
pretty bloody silly), accommodating them is really not a big deal.

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Tom Melly wrote:
> Apart from the schools/work issue, many people object to nudity in images on
> principle. Whatever we might think of their beliefs and/or regulations (i.e.
> pretty bloody silly), accommodating them is really not a big deal.

Well, *I* object to making the distinction, separating nudity from
everything else thereby drawing attention to the fact.  My image
there isn't about nudity, and if I had a way to clothe the figure
the way I want, I would.  But Vickie 3.0 sucks like that, having
atm no clothing that really works with her.

(BTW egisys just fired most, if not all, the CL people, gonna be
farming out development of Poser to other companies from what I
understand)

I believe that there is nothing inherently wrong with nudity, and,
as such, see no reason to put a notice in the subject line.  My
suggestion is this: if nudity offends person x, then person x can
just assume that ALL of my images have it, and not look at any of
my images, thereby saving themselves the emotional scarring.

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http://empyrean.scifi-fantasy.com

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Another really nice image. I like it!

Thanks - Andrew.

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I am going to purposely not take sides on the nudity issue, but instead turn
the whole discussion on its head.

Frankly, I didn't see ANY nudity in the image.  What I saw was a completely
100% computer rendered image.  There was no nude woman who posed for this,
and therefore trying to determine whether or not it depicts someone who is
nude, is completely left open to interpretation.  e.g. If I create an image
with a toaster on it that looks to some like a nude female, am I at fault?

Alright, I think I made a point, and hopefully added a little humor.  Those
who can't find the humor need to get a life.

Obviously this image had an intent, and was not meant to depict a poorly
designed toaster.  Whether or not it should say "Nudity" should be left to
the discretion of those that maintain the newsgroups.  Either make a rule
or don't.

From the FAQ - "News Server Acceptable Use Policy":

2.) We have a number of young people that visit this server. Because
    of this we ask that you keep this in mind before posting messages
    or images of an explicit sexual nature. While nudity is commonly
    used as a form of artistic expression we ask that you present it
    as tastefully as possible if you post images of this type. Use good
    judgment where this is concerned and be aware that children may
    be watching as their parents download images posted on this server.

    You might consider uploading images of a controversial nature to
    your personal web page and provide a link to it from a message
    posted here. This gives people the opportunity to decide if they
    wish to view material of this type at their own discretion.

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"Timothy R. Cook" <tim### [at] scifi-fantasycom> wrote in
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> I believe that there is nothing inherently wrong with nudity, and,
> as such, see no reason to put a notice in the subject line.  

I actually would like a warning for any image that contains fabric.  I find 
clothes objectionable.  All those colors and shapes are unnatural.  God 
made us naked and we should stay that way!

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Tom Galvin wrote:
> I actually would like a warning for any image that contains fabric.  I find 
> clothes objectionable.  All those colors and shapes are unnatural.  God 
> made us naked and we should stay that way!

"If God had meant for us to be naked, we would have been born that way."

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http://empyrean.scifi-fantasy.com

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