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From: Aaron
Subject: Re: IRTC WIP comments please
Date: 20 Dec 2002 22:27:00
Message: <3e03df84@news.povray.org>
I noticed a few things.

1. I think the waterfall is a bit rough.  The ripples coming from the
splashes need more attention as they should be rounded  And there is
probably a bit more foam and multiple disturbance points.  Also there will
probably be a mist coming from the fall.  Perhaps a spectrum effect like a
mini rainbow would be good?

2. I agree with the other post.  The Water out of the bottle would be less.
Also again the wave in the glass should be more rounded.  Perhaps some beads
of water from splashes on the side of the glass for detail?  Also there
would be tiny air bubbles in the water.

3. The glass looks to be missing a bit at the bottom.  Change the camera
angle or texture of the glass if this is caused by reflection.

4. The hand texture doesn't look quite right (close though!).  Probably
needs to be darker and rougher... with hairs?


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From: Tek
Subject: Re: IRTC WIP comments please
Date: 20 Dec 2002 22:38:55
Message: <3e03e24f@news.povray.org>
Good points.

1. In this render the top of the waterfall seems almost invisible, I don't know
what I changed that caused this. The ripples are just placeholders at the
moment, I'll put in some more realistic ones. Mist would be nice, I'll try that.

2. Hmm... I have to agree with you. If I get time I'll redo it.

3. I think this is caused by me accidentally setting no_reflection on the glass,
so when you look through it you can't see it. Plus I can't move the camera
because that breaks the symmetry between the pouring water and the waterfall.

4. The hand texture's actually 1 flat colour! I'm surprised how good it looks,
but that's the wonder of poser for you :) I've got uv mapper so putting some
details on should be straight forward.

So, if I can I'll address all these points :)

Thanks

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Tek
http://www.evilsuperbrain.com


Aaron <aar### [at] ihugconz> wrote in message news:3e03df84@news.povray.org...
> I noticed a few things.
>
> 1. I think the waterfall is a bit rough.  The ripples coming from the
> splashes need more attention as they should be rounded  And there is
> probably a bit more foam and multiple disturbance points.  Also there will
> probably be a mist coming from the fall.  Perhaps a spectrum effect like a
> mini rainbow would be good?
>
> 2. I agree with the other post.  The Water out of the bottle would be less.
> Also again the wave in the glass should be more rounded.  Perhaps some beads
> of water from splashes on the side of the glass for detail?  Also there
> would be tiny air bubbles in the water.
>
> 3. The glass looks to be missing a bit at the bottom.  Change the camera
> angle or texture of the glass if this is caused by reflection.
>
> 4. The hand texture doesn't look quite right (close though!).  Probably
> needs to be darker and rougher... with hairs?
>
>


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From: Greg M  Johnson
Subject: Re: IRTC WIP comments please
Date: 20 Dec 2002 22:41:05
Message: <3e03e2d1$1@news.povray.org>
Superb. Combines actual photorealism with
just-beautiful-thumbing-nose-at-realism.


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From: Tek
Subject: Re: IRTC WIP comments please
Date: 20 Dec 2002 22:43:22
Message: <3e03e35a@news.povray.org>
Greg M. Johnson <gregj:-)56590@ao:-)l.com> wrote in message
news:3e03e2d1$1@news.povray.org...
> Superb. Combines actual photorealism with
> just-beautiful-thumbing-nose-at-realism.

:-D
Thanks!

Must remember that for the text file ;)

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Tek
http://www.evilsuperbrain.com


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From: Apache
Subject: Re: IRTC WIP comments please
Date: 20 Dec 2002 23:04:27
Message: <3e03e84b$1@news.povray.org>
Good stuff! But water never runs out of a bottle this continuously. There
has to be an "opening" somewhere (in the bottle or in the water stream) that
allows air to fill the space in the bottle that is left by the water. In
most cases this causes the water stream to be kind of chaotic and
bubble-like.


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From: Tek
Subject: Re: IRTC WIP comments please
Date: 20 Dec 2002 23:14:52
Message: <3e03eabc@news.povray.org>
There is an opening, the water is only half filling the neck of the bottle.
...though now you mention it that's not obvious in the picture is it?

Well, if I manage to reduce the amount of water coming out it should look okay.
Though I have no idea how I'm going to get the chaotic effect...

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Tek
http://www.evilsuperbrain.com


Apache <apa### [at] yahoocom> wrote in message
news:3e03e84b$1@news.povray.org...
> Good stuff! But water never runs out of a bottle this continuously. There
> has to be an "opening" somewhere (in the bottle or in the water stream) that
> allows air to fill the space in the bottle that is left by the water. In
> most cases this causes the water stream to be kind of chaotic and
> bubble-like.
>
>


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From: Apache
Subject: Re: IRTC WIP comments please
Date: 20 Dec 2002 23:36:04
Message: <3e03efb4$1@news.povray.org>
> ...though now you mention it that's not obvious in the picture is it?
It doesn't have to obvious. In reality many things aren't obvious either!

> Though I have no idea how I'm going to get the chaotic effect...
That's a very difficult thing to do. Maybe Rune's (website) has something to
offer?

Regards,
Apache


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From: Tek
Subject: Re: IRTC WIP comments please
Date: 20 Dec 2002 23:53:12
Message: <3e03f3b8@news.povray.org>
> That's a very difficult thing to do. Maybe Rune's (website) has something to
> offer?

Hmm... Well I can't find anything suitable on his website, though it has given
me an idea. I think I can get a very realistic effect with blobs, provided I do
them right...

I'll post the results of my experimentation when I have them :)

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Tek
http://www.evilsuperbrain.com


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From: Apache
Subject: Re: IRTC WIP comments please
Date: 21 Dec 2002 00:08:59
Message: <3e03f76b@news.povray.org>
> I'll post the results of my experimentation when I have them :)
Don't forget!   :-)

I'm gonna get some sleep now. It's 0615 or something here (my computer
things it's 0644 however).

Regards!
Apache


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From: Tek
Subject: Re: IRTC WIP comments please
Date: 21 Dec 2002 00:15:27
Message: <3e03f8ef$1@news.povray.org>
Yeah likewise. It's 5:15 here! :)

I'll just pov one... more... thing...

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Tek
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Apache <apa### [at] yahoocom> wrote in message
news:3e03f76b@news.povray.org...
> > I'll post the results of my experimentation when I have them :)
> Don't forget!   :-)
>
> I'm gonna get some sleep now. It's 0615 or something here (my computer
> things it's 0644 however).
>
> Regards!
> Apache
>
>


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