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From: Glen Berry
Subject: Re: need an opinion
Date: 25 May 2002 02:58:26
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On Sat, 25 May 2002 02:43:45 -0400, "Slime" <slm### [at] slimelandcom> wrote:

>Looks fine. Making the tree bigger wouldn't *hurt*, but it's fine as it is
>now.

Just wait a few years, it'll be bigger by then.  What we have here, is
a POV artist that plans ahead.   :)



Later,
Glen

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From: Glen Berry
Subject: Re: need an opinion
Date: 25 May 2002 03:33:30
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On Fri, 24 May 2002 23:04:12 -0600, "Kevin Loney" <klo### [at] pt2mcom>
wrote:

>Does everything in this scene look about proportional, nothing is to big,
>nothing to small? To give credit where it is due, the person is Thomas
>Baier's Lucy model from his IRTC entry.

The railing is too low. I would even consider using two or three
horizontal rails, instead of the single rail you have here. I think
the top rail probably should be set a bit higher than the waist-level
of the average adult. I would divide the remaining lower space equally
with whatever number of additional rails I decided to add. 

I think that the long rail, toward the left-rear of the scene, is
probably too long to be unsupported. I would consider adding more
supporting posts to this rail, probably two of them. If you think that
two more square posts might clutter up the view of the deck too much,
you might want to consider using vertical sections of pipe instead.
Secure them to the flooring with pipe flanges. This would be slimmer,
and offer a less obstructed view of the deck.

The horizontal support, under the decking, that spans from one corner
column to another, might need to be "taller" (or "thicker" depending
on how you want to refer to its top-to-bottom dimension), in order to
be sturdier. It doesn't seem like a good match for the perceived
strength of your corner uprights, and the perceived weight of your
deck, including a full load of people standing on it.

The size of your floor planks seems just *maybe* a little wide, but
it's hard to tell.

I would consider adding a safety railing around the hole in the center
of the deck. I probably wouldn't use square posts to support this
railing. I would probably construct the whole assembly from high
quality POV-Ray pipe, and fasten it to the deck with pipe flanges.

The nice thing about using POV-Ray pipe, is that it doesn't rust,
unless you tell it to.  :)



Later,
Glen

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From: Bill DeWitt
Subject: Re: need an opinion
Date: 25 May 2002 07:52:52
Message: <3cef7b14$1@news.povray.org>
"Kevin Loney" <klo### [at] pt2mcom> wrote in message
news:3cef1beb@news.povray.org...
> Does everything in this scene look about proportional, nothing is to big,
> nothing to small? To give credit where it is due, the person is Thomas
> Baier's Lucy model from his IRTC entry.

    The guard rail is perfect tripping height and the corner posts are
thinker than you can really get square posts anymore, but otherwise it
doesn't seem disproportional.


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From: Hugo
Subject: Re: need an opinion
Date: 25 May 2002 08:22:00
Message: <3cef81e8$1@news.povray.org>
The womans body seems a bit out of scale. Too long arms, too short legs.

The rail, well I suppose it's alright.. Any scale would be appropiate.


Hugo


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From: Rune
Subject: Re: need an opinion
Date: 25 May 2002 09:34:42
Message: <3cef92f2@news.povray.org>
I disagree with everyone else that the railing is too low. It's
obviously not meant as a conventional railing, but I've seen railing
like that in this image.

( See my Dripstone Cave image which is inspired by a real dripstone cave
I visited once, which had such low railings.
http://rsj.mobilixnet.dk/3d/gallery/cave.jpg Hehe, that's an old
image... )

So, I think the proportions are fine.

Rune
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From: Dave Bates {[Norman]}
Subject: Re: need an opinion
Date: 25 May 2002 12:40:01
Message: <3cefbe61@news.povray.org>
The Scene looks very good Kevin,

However, I would think you owuld want the tree to be a little taller..
Usually with palm treses they are a couple feet above a person, unless she
is really tall.. :)

Overall I like the scene alot, and I can't wait to see the final..

Dave

"Kevin Loney" <klo### [at] pt2mcom> wrote in message
news:3cef1beb@news.povray.org...
> Does everything in this scene look about proportional, nothing is to big,
> nothing to small? To give credit where it is due, the person is Thomas
> Baier's Lucy model from his IRTC entry.
>
> thanks
>
> --
> Kevin
> http://www.geocities.com/qsquared_1999/
> #macro _(r)#if(r<12)#local i=asc(substr("oqshilacefg",r,1))-97;
> disc{<mod(i,7)-3,div(i,7)-1,6>,z,.4pigment{rgb 10}}_(r+1)
> #end#end _(1)//KL
>
>
>


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From: Kevin Loney
Subject: Re: need an opinion
Date: 25 May 2002 15:59:12
Message: <3cefed10$1@news.povray.org>
I cut the hole in the middle bigger for that very reason =)

--
Kevin
http://www.geocities.com/qsquared_1999/
#macro _(r)#if(r<12)#local i=asc(substr("oqshilacefg",r,1))-97;
disc{<mod(i,7)-3,div(i,7)-1,6>,z,.4pigment{rgb 10}}_(r+1)
#end#end _(1)//KL


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From: Kevin Loney
Subject: Re: need an opinion
Date: 25 May 2002 16:05:19
Message: <3cefee7f$1@news.povray.org>
>I would consider adding a safety railing around the hole in the center
>of the deck. I probably wouldn't use square posts to support this
>railing. I would probably construct the whole assembly from high
>quality POV-Ray pipe, and fasten it to the deck with pipe flanges.

There is actually going to be a Octangonal picnic bench in the middle, so
the safety railing is kind of impractical. I like the pipe idea, but doing
the whole support structure in pipe would I think, ruin the kind of setting
I'm aiming for, but I do like the idea of using pipes to support the
midpoint of the longer pipe. As for the pipe flanges, I just havn't got
around to it yet, but it's one of the finer details I plan on adding later.
As for the supports under the deck, your right, they do seem a bt small to
support the weight, I'll have to fiz that.

thanks

--
Kevin
http://www.geocities.com/qsquared_1999/
#macro _(r)#if(r<12)#local i=asc(substr("oqshilacefg",r,1))-97;
disc{<mod(i,7)-3,div(i,7)-1,6>,z,.4pigment{rgb 10}}_(r+1)
#end#end _(1)//KL


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From: Glen Berry
Subject: Re: need an opinion
Date: 25 May 2002 18:48:05
Message: <6RPwPDth3tZP8NIr8O4Iy66RZ=vb@4ax.com>
On Sat, 25 May 2002 07:51:33 -0400, "Bill DeWitt"
<bde### [at] cflrrcom> wrote:

>    The guard rail is perfect tripping height and the corner posts are
>thinker than you can really get square posts anymore, but otherwise it
>doesn't seem disproportional.

I think you are assuming the corner supports are made from wood, in
which case your statement would make perfect sense, and I would be in
total agreement with it. However, what if those white columns are
actually meant to be reinforced concrete? He can have a "post" as
large and sturdy as he wants, in that case.



Later,
Glen

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From: Kevin Loney
Subject: Re: need an opinion
Date: 25 May 2002 19:39:10
Message: <3cf0209e$1@news.povray.org>
Bill is right, there going to be wood, however considering those posts are
going to be POV brand wood, I can get them in any shape and size. Not only
that but POV brand wood dosen't fade in the sun.
--
Kevin
http://www.geocities.com/qsquared_1999/
#macro _(r)#if(r<12)#local i=asc(substr("oqshilacefg",r,1))-97;
disc{<mod(i,7)-3,div(i,7)-1,6>,z,.4pigment{rgb 10}}_(r+1)
#end#end _(1)//KL


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