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From: Bill DeWitt
Subject: Re: Calendar Macro [10.8kb]
Date: 22 Nov 2001 09:40:32
Message: <3bfd0e60@news.povray.org>
"Tom Melly" <tom### [at] tomandlucouk> wrote :
>
> Would your
> method be cross-platform?

    There are other platforms?

    I imagine that other platforms have ways of calling small batch programs
that write text files which contain the date and time. You have the pov.ini
run them, then read them in the pov script i/o functions. Including cross
platform instructions in the comments would make it cross platform.


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From: nospam
Subject: Re: Calendar Macro [10.8kb]
Date: 24 Nov 2001 16:33:20
Message: <3bfea719.14298978@localhost>
On Wed, 21 Nov 2001 18:52:58 +0100, "Jan Walzer" <jan### [at] lzernet>
wrote:

>The week starts with Monday!!!

Yup.  Sunday is the 7th day.  Even the bible has this correct.


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From: Marc-Hendrik Bremer
Subject: Re: Calendar Macro [10.8kb]
Date: 24 Nov 2001 16:52:52
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nospam schrieb in Nachricht <3bfea719.14298978@localhost>...
>On Wed, 21 Nov 2001 18:52:58 +0100, "Jan Walzer" <jan### [at] lzernet>
>wrote:
>
>>The week starts with Monday!!!
>
>Yup.  Sunday is the 7th day.  Even the bible has this correct.
>


Sorry, that's not correct. It's Saturday in the bible - as the Jews
celebrate it. Sunday as the day of the lord is caused by Easter and JC
resurrection.

Marc-Hendrik


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From: Anton Sherwood
Subject: Re: Calendar Macro [10.8kb]
Date: 25 Nov 2001 01:30:09
Message: <3C0091B0.E2CDEFDE@pobox.com>
> >On Wed, 21 Nov 2001 18:52:58 +0100, "Jan Walzer" <jan### [at] lzernet> wrote:
> >>The week starts with Monday!!!

quoth PeterC:
> >Yup.  Sunday is the 7th day.  Even the bible has this correct.

Marc-Hendrik Bremer wrote:
> Sorry, that's not correct. It's Saturday in the bible - as the Jews

(and a few Christians)

> celebrate it. Sunday as the day of the lord is caused by Easter and JC
> resurrection.

Well, I doubt that the Bible ever mentions "Saturday" or "Sunday" by
those names.  But it's clear, isn't it?, that the crucifixion (Good
Friday) was on the "day of preparation", i.e. the day before the "day of
rest" -- which is still called something like `sabbat' in some Romance
languages as well as Hebrew.

-- 
Anton Sherwood  --  http://www.ogre.nu/ (online again, Nov.19)


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From: Marc-Hendrik Bremer
Subject: Re: Calendar Macro [10.8kb]
Date: 25 Nov 2001 04:45:00
Message: <3c00bd9c$1@news.povray.org>
Anton Sherwood schrieb in Nachricht <3C0091B0.E2CDEFDE@pobox.com>...
>Well, I doubt that the Bible ever mentions "Saturday" or "Sunday" by
>those names.  But it's clear, isn't it?, that the crucifixion (Good
>Friday) was on the "day of preparation", i.e. the day before the "day of
>rest" -- which is still called something like `sabbat' in some Romance
>languages as well as Hebrew.


Of course, the bible does not mention those names, which are of
Latin-Germanic origin if I'm not mistaken (Thursday = Thor's day, Friday =
Freya's day etc.).

I may misunderstand you, but I was not talking about the crucifixion, but
the resurrection of J.C. which is celebrated each Sunday.
But to be honest: It is absolutely arbitrary which day one chooses to let
the week begin, isn't it?

Marc-Hendrik


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From: Ib Rasmussen
Subject: Re: Calendar Macro [10.8kb]
Date: 25 Nov 2001 05:30:51
Message: <3C00C867.A4C07136@ibras.dk>
Marc-Hendrik Bremer wrote:
> 
> But to be honest: It is absolutely arbitrary which day one chooses to let
> the week begin, isn't it?

Not if we want to keep on calling saturday/sunday the week-end. :-)

Anyway, there is a European Standard that specifies, that the week
starts on monday, so in Europe at least, it is official. Don't know
about the rest of the world.

/Ib


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From: Anton Sherwood
Subject: Re: Calendar Macro [10.8kb]
Date: 25 Nov 2001 06:13:23
Message: <3C00D412.1F9AAB7A@pobox.com>
>> ... it's clear, isn't it?, that the crucifixion (Good Friday) was on
>> the "day of preparation", i.e. the day before the "day of rest" ...

Marc-Hendrik Bremer wrote:
> I may misunderstand you, but I was not talking about the crucifixion,
> but the resurrection of J.C. which is celebrated each Sunday.

I'm no Bible expert; the crucifixion is the only link I know between the
ancient Jewish week and the modern week.  If the crucifixion was the day
before "the day of rest", then the resurrection must be the day after.


-- 
Anton Sherwood  --  http://www.ogre.nu/ (online again, Nov.19)


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From: Marc-Hendrik Bremer
Subject: Re: Calendar Macro [10.8kb]
Date: 25 Nov 2001 06:17:46
Message: <3c00d35a@news.povray.org>
Anton Sherwood schrieb in Nachricht <3C00D412.1F9AAB7A@pobox.com>...
>I'm no Bible expert; the crucifixion is the only link I know between the
>ancient Jewish week and the modern week.  If the crucifixion was the day
>before "the day of rest", then the resurrection must be the day after.


So we agree and I got you partly wrong.

Marc-Hendrik


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From: Bill DeWitt
Subject: Re: Calendar Macro [10.8kb]
Date: 25 Nov 2001 11:33:40
Message: <3c011d64@news.povray.org>
"Anton Sherwood" <bro### [at] poboxcom> wrote :
> I'm no Bible expert; the crucifixion is the only link I know between the
> ancient Jewish week and the modern week.  If the crucifixion was the day
> before "the day of rest", then the resurrection must be the day after.

    "On the third day he rose again", so could be the day after the day
after... depends on if you count the day he was buried as the first day or
not.

    But standard calendars have the week ends in their proper places, at
both ends of the week. The week starts at one end on Sunday and goes through
the other end which is Saturday.


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From: Anton Sherwood
Subject: Re: Calendar Macro [10.8kb]
Date: 25 Nov 2001 14:58:48
Message: <3C014F39.B1B44603@pobox.com>
> "Anton Sherwood" <bro### [at] poboxcom> wrote :
> > I'm no Bible expert; the crucifixion is the only link I know between the
> > ancient Jewish week and the modern week.  If the crucifixion was the day
> > before "the day of rest", then the resurrection must be the day after.

Bill DeWitt wrote:
>     "On the third day he rose again", so could be the day after the day
> after... depends on if you count the day he was buried as the first day
> or not.

Zero-based indexing is rare in the ancient world; that bit, at least, is
uncontroversial: the cross-raising was day 1 (Friday), the resurrection
day 3 (Sunday).


>     But standard calendars have the week ends in their proper places,
> at both ends of the week. The week starts at one end on Sunday and goes
> through the other end which is Saturday.

American standard, yes, but evidently not Eurostandard.

-- 
Anton Sherwood  --  http://www.ogre.nu/ (online again, Nov.19)


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