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From: Geoff Wedig
Subject: Re: New Website Logo (26kau)
Date: 5 Apr 2001 12:42:28
Message: <3acca074@news.povray.org>
Tom Melly <tom### [at] tomandlucouk> wrote:

> "Rune" <run### [at] inamecom> wrote in message
> news:3acc99db@news.povray.org...
>>
>> > I like it - nice and retro.
>>
>> Thank you!
>>
>> Not having English as my native tongue I'm not sure exactly what "retro"
>> means (though I do have a vague idea). Anybody care to explain?

> It generally means design based around 1950's US design. Powerpuff Girls
> springs to mind.

Or earlier.  Retro as in "retroactive".  It's a look built out of
old-fashioned elements.

Geoff


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From: Rune
Subject: Re: New Website Logo (26kau)
Date: 5 Apr 2001 18:16:16
Message: <3acceeb0@news.povray.org>
Rune wrote:
> Not having English as my native tongue I'm not sure
> exactly what "retro" means (though I do have a vague
> idea). Anybody care to explain?

Tom Melly wrote:
> It generally means design based around 1950's US
> design. Powerpuff Girls springs to mind.

"Geoff Wedig" wrote:
> Or earlier.  Retro as in "retroactive".  It's a look
> built out of old-fashioned elements.

Thanks both!

Rune
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From: Rune
Subject: Re: New Website Logo (26kau)
Date: 5 Apr 2001 18:16:17
Message: <3acceeb1@news.povray.org>
"Tom Melly" wrote:
> Aargh. I looked through my fonts, but couldn't see one
> that matches my rather indistinct idea (mainly through
> the lack of a decent font viewer). I had an idea of
> something that looked like those neon (joined-up) signs.

I'm not sure I would like a neon style, but I still can't quite picture it
so who knows...

Rune
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From: J Charter
Subject: Re: New Website Logo (26kau)
Date: 5 Apr 2001 19:54:34
Message: <3ACD07BC.C9F58AFA@aol.com>
> > It generally means design based around 1950's US design. Powerpuff Girls
> > springs to mind.
>
> Or earlier.  Retro as in "retroactive".  It's a look built out of
> old-fashioned elements.
>

 "retrograde"  might be better
And it is relative isn't it?  It means looking "backward" in time from
whatever vantage you assume to take.  Mimicking sixties clothing styles today
is
"retro"


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From: Tom Melly
Subject: Re: New Website Logo (26kau)
Date: 6 Apr 2001 04:11:26
Message: <3acd7a2e$1@news.povray.org>
"J Charter" <jrc### [at] aolcom> wrote in message
news:3ACD07BC.C9F58AFA@aol.com...
>
>  "retrograde"  might be better
> And it is relative isn't it?  It means looking "backward" in time from
> whatever vantage you assume to take.  Mimicking sixties clothing styles
today
> is
> "retro"
>

True - and later. Abba could be considered a bit "retro". It implies a
knowing, slightly ironic, approach to a past style (managed to avoid the PM
word).


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From: Rune
Subject: Re: New Website Logo (26kau)
Date: 6 Apr 2001 06:22:23
Message: <3acd98df@news.povray.org>
"J Charter" wrote:
>  "retrograde"  might be better
> And it is relative isn't it?  It means looking "backward"
> in time from whatever vantage you assume to take.
> Mimicking sixties clothing styles today is "retro"

Ok!

"Tom Melly" wrote:
> True - and later. Abba could be considered a bit "retro".
> It implies a knowing, slightly ironic, approach to a past
> style (managed to avoid the PM word).

I get it now. However, I didn't *intentionally* make my logo have a look or
feel from past times. Does that mean it isn't retro after all?

Rune
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From: Tom Melly
Subject: Re: New Website Logo (26kau)
Date: 6 Apr 2001 07:28:20
Message: <3acda854@news.povray.org>
"Rune" <run### [at] inamecom> wrote in message
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>
> I get it now. However, I didn't *intentionally* make my logo have a look
or
> feel from past times. Does that mean it isn't retro after all?
>

You seem to be under the impression that the artist gets to decide on the
meaning and/or intent of his work - what a strange idea, don't you know
that's what post-modern critics and social commentators are for? ;)

BTW for a similiar(ish) design, as well as a couple of different fonts (both
rather nice), what about the Astro City logo (a rather enjoyable comic):


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From: Rune
Subject: Re: New Website Logo (26kau)
Date: 6 Apr 2001 19:46:40
Message: <3ace5560@news.povray.org>
"Tom Melly" wrote:
> You seem to be under the impression that the artist
> gets to decide on the meaning and/or intent of his work
> - what a strange idea, don't you know that's what
> post-modern critics and social commentators are for? ;)

Of course, you're right! ;)

> BTW for a similiar(ish) design, as well as a couple of
> different fonts (both rather nice), what about the
> Astro City logo (a rather enjoyable comic):

It's very nice, but it's not the feel I'm going for.
It says very much "cartoon" to me (quite naturally).

Though the logo for my site may look a bit cartoonish, the overall
impression is not meant to be particularly cartoonish.

Rune
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From: Lt Lettch
Subject: Re: New Website Logo (26kau)
Date: 6 Apr 2001 21:26:58
Message: <3ace6ce2@news.povray.org>
I thought Retro meant "Futuristic." As in "Retrofit." It looked kinda spacey
(in a GOOD way) to me.


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From: Anton Sherwood
Subject: Retro (was: New Website Logo)
Date: 15 Apr 2001 03:36:30
Message: <3AD94F95.478F30DD@pobox.com>
Tom Melly scripsit
> > > It generally means design based around 1950's US design.
> > > Powerpuff Girls springs to mind.

Geoff Wedig added
> > Or earlier.  Retro as in "retroactive". 
> > It's a look built out of old-fashioned elements.

J Charter wrote
>  "retrograde"  might be better
> And it is relative isn't it?  It means looking "backward"
> in time from whatever vantage you assume to take.  Mimicking
> sixties clothing styles today is "retro"

James Lileks, whose site (http://lileks.com/) is worth exploring,
commented somewhere that before 1970 or so there was no such thing as
`retro' as we know it.  Thirties style doesn't turn up much in Fifties
designs.

Dunno whether I buy his claim, but it's thought-provoking anyway!

The first example that comes to mind of paleo-retro ;) is the use of
`wood' typefaces to suggest either the Wild West or the circus.

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Anton Sherwood  --  br0### [at] p0b0xcom  --  http://ogre.nu/


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