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From: Jamie Davison
Subject: Re: Oilve Oil Bottle - Photons - (and oil)
Date: 3 Apr 2001 16:51:21
Message: <MPG.1534483974e0acf59898aa@news.povray.org>
> Well, I don't know if this is any help or not, but 1,2,3 Propan-triol 
> (also known as Glycerol) has the same IOR at 20 degrees C as borosilicate 
> glass.  Unfortunately I don't know any numbers off the top of my head.

Whoops, that should really have been Propan-1,2,3-triol...

Never mind.

Bye for now,
     Jamie.


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From: Data
Subject: Re: Oilve Oil Bottle - Photons - (and oil)
Date: 3 Apr 2001 17:19:37
Message: <3aca3e69@news.povray.org>
"Rick [Kitty5]" <ric### [at] kitty5com> wrote in message
news:3ac9c404@news.povray.org...
> render time just over 8 hours inc parse, modelled in rhino, scene laid out
> in moray, mangled by hand.....
>
> mega pov defiantly does not like shorthand translations and rotations!
>
> eg
> rotate -27.0*z
>
> as outputted by moray works fine in mega pov until you put the version
line
> in, and it chokes. (error is expected } but found * instead)
>
Yet you can use -z*27.0 fine (yes, with #version megapov) - I know, it's
what I use


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From: Francois Labreque
Subject: Re: Oilve Oil Bottle - Photons - (and oil)
Date: 3 Apr 2001 19:39:35
Message: <3ACA5E1C.6727DD09@videotron.ca>
Geoff Wedig wrote:
> 
> Christoph Hormann <chr### [at] gmxde> wrote:
> 
> > "Rick [Kitty5]" wrote:
> >>
> >> > is rotate z*-27.0 okay? (I've never had a problem with shorthand*)
> >>
> >> yes that works fine as far as I know, however
> >>
> >> rotate -27.0*z
> >>
> >> as outputted by moray is a no no
> >>
> 
> > I tried exactly the same in megapov 0.7 and had no problems, same in 0.6a.

Same here.  Most of my transforms are shorthand and I have yet to see a
problem.  MP 0.5, 0.6, 0.6a and 0.7.

> 
> Hmm, could this be a platform/download thing?  Have you tried redownloading
> and installing it?  It could simply be something broke in the transfer.
> 
> Geoff

Probably not.  as the CRC of the zip file (or .tgz) would have caught
it.

I suspect drunk driving.  Rick should post a more complete example of
what is not working.

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From: Rick [Kitty5]
Subject: Re: Oilve Oil Bottle - Photons - (and oil)
Date: 3 Apr 2001 21:08:33
Message: <3aca7411$1@news.povray.org>
> I suspect drunk driving.  Rick should post a more complete example of
> what is not working.

will do in the unoff.patches :)


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From: Rick [Kitty5]
Subject: Re: Oilve Oil Bottle - Photons - (and oil)
Date: 3 Apr 2001 21:08:35
Message: <3aca7413@news.povray.org>
> Yet you can use -z*27.0 fine (yes, with #version megapov) - I know, it's
> what I use

i know i can, however its what is outputted by moray that i am working with,
and works perfectly till i add the version info, then it all falls down, i
dont want to have to start manually editing my scenes, especially as some
can get extremly complex with many layers of csg involving hundreds of
objects! (which is the reason i use a modeller!)


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From: Data
Subject: Re: Oilve Oil Bottle - Photons - (and oil)
Date: 3 Apr 2001 22:05:20
Message: <3aca8160@news.povray.org>
> > Yet you can use -z*27.0 fine (yes, with #version megapov) - I know, it's
> > what I use
>
> i know i can, however its what is outputted by moray that i am working
with,
> and works perfectly till i add the version info, then it all falls down, i
> dont want to have to start manually editing my scenes, especially as some
> can get extremly complex with many layers of csg involving hundreds of
> objects! (which is the reason i use a modeller!)
>
>
Search & replace? changing the -27.0*z to -z*27.0
Then again, time consuming


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From: Rick [Kitty5]
Subject: Re: Oilve Oil Bottle - Photons - (and oil)
Date: 3 Apr 2001 22:33:23
Message: <3aca87f3@news.povray.org>
> Search & replace? changing the -27.0*z to -z*27.0
> Then again, time consuming

would have to search and replace every value one by one, would be simpler to
edit the code line by line by line.


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From: Geoff Wedig
Subject: Re: Oilve Oil Bottle - Photons - (and oil)
Date: 4 Apr 2001 07:24:07
Message: <3acb0457@news.povray.org>
Rick [Kitty5] <ric### [at] kitty5com> wrote:


>> Yet you can use -z*27.0 fine (yes, with #version megapov) - I know, it's
>> what I use

> i know i can, however its what is outputted by moray that i am working with,
> and works perfectly till i add the version info, then it all falls down, i
> dont want to have to start manually editing my scenes, especially as some
> can get extremly complex with many layers of csg involving hundreds of
> objects! (which is the reason i use a modeller!)

There really is something weird with your installation, since I do this kind
of thing all the time, and have never had a problem.  Perhaps something else
weird in your code, that just causes the break there?

Geoff


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From: Michael Andrews
Subject: Re: Oilve Oil Bottle - Photons - (and oil)
Date: 5 Apr 2001 04:56:44
Message: <3ACC33DA.DCB3AAB5@reading.ac.uk>
"Rick [Kitty5]" wrote:

> i know i can, however its what is outputted by moray that i am working with,
> and works perfectly till i add the version info, then it all falls down, i

_Exactly_ what version info do you put in, and where do you put it? I
use the shorthand rotates/translates using (float)*(axis) all the time
in Win versions of MegaPov, PoVMan etc. I've never used Moray, but I
can't see this particular shorthand causing a problem with any
unofficial version.

Bye for now,
	Mike Andrews.


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From: Data
Subject: Re: Oilve Oil Bottle - Photons - (and oil)
Date: 5 Apr 2001 12:37:58
Message: <3acc9f66@news.povray.org>
> > Search & replace? changing the -27.0*z to -z*27.0
> > Then again, time consuming
>
> would have to search and replace every value one by one, would be simpler
to
> edit the code line by line by line.
>
Realised that after :(


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