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From: Ken
Subject: Re: Current attic
Date: 10 Dec 2000 01:20:42
Message: <3A332194.6D2FAC9C@pacbell.net>
Jim Kress wrote:
> 
> >(Does this mean I am a liberal ?)
> 
> Only if you insist that votes already counted three times are uncounted ...

I would never insist such a thing...

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From: Mark Wagner
Subject: Re: Christmas Ornament (173 kbbu)
Date: 10 Dec 2000 01:22:49
Message: <3a332139@news.povray.org>
Rick [Kitty5] wrote in message <3a317d50$1@news.povray.org>...
>
>> A Christmas ornament I rendered, based on an ornament on the tree
>> downstairs.
>
>ROFL - i bet the original image thats in there is only 150kbbu !!

The original image was 580 KB -- guess why I compressed it?


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From: Mark Wagner
Subject: Re: Christmas Ornament (173 kbbu)
Date: 10 Dec 2000 01:33:23
Message: <3a3323b3@news.povray.org>
Psychomech wrote in message <3A332923.92E7F6A6@home.com>...
>I thought that might be the way i would have to do it... :{   Lord!  Mark
Wanger didn't want many
>people to view this pic did he????


That's "Mark Wagner", and it doesn't really matter to me how many people
view it, since I posted a very similar version a year ago.  This was mostly
a commentary on the "Guidelines" thread in povray.binaries.images, and on
Warp's decision to bzip2 the image he posted here.

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From: Mark Wagner
Subject: Re: Christmas Ornament (173 kbbu)
Date: 10 Dec 2000 01:42:19
Message: <3a3325cb@news.povray.org>
Alan Kong wrote in message ...

>  Very amusing, Mark. Could you please cancel this 173k post so those
>that pay for their connection time by the minute won't waste their time
>downloading your 'image'? Thanks.


Message canceled.

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From: Warp
Subject: Re: Current attic
Date: 10 Dec 2000 09:49:04
Message: <3a3397e0@news.povray.org>
Christoph Hormann <chr### [at] gmxde> wrote:
: BTW why didn't you post it in plain jpg?

  Completely honest answer:

  I had a little fight with Ken about whether posting in a format not supported
by every platform is OK or not. My opinion was that it would be polite to
post your files in a format supported by most platforms.
  I packed the image with bzip2 (which doesn't seem to be very popular in
the Windows platform since it seems that WinZip nor other popular packer
programs support it, although bzip2 is quite popular in Unix systems) to
make it harder for Windows-users to open it. My intention was to show that
using a format not directly supported by most platforms only causes trouble
to people.

  I agree that it may have been a bit childish "attack". I'm sorry.

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main(i,_){for(_?--i,main(i+2,"FhhQHFIJD|FQTITFN]zRFHhhTBFHhhTBFysdB"[i]
):_;i&&_>1;printf("%s",_-70?_&1?"[]":" ":(_=0,"\n")),_/=2);} /*- Warp -*/


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From: Ken
Subject: Re: Current attic
Date: 10 Dec 2000 10:46:57
Message: <3A33A64C.DE38D6D2@pacbell.net>
Warp wrote:
> 
> Christoph Hormann <chr### [at] gmxde> wrote:
> : BTW why didn't you post it in plain jpg?
> 
>   Completely honest answer:
> 
>   I had a little fight with Ken about whether posting in a format not supported
> by every platform is OK or not. My opinion was that it would be polite to
> post your files in a format supported by most platforms.

You completely failed to make your point or to understand mine. You
posted in a format that is only used by 3-5% of the worlds computer
users. My point was that you cater to the greatest common denominator
and you have clearly not demonstrated this by your actions.

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From: Remco de Korte
Subject: Re: Current attic
Date: 10 Dec 2000 16:30:49
Message: <3A33F5D4.FB30BB09@onwijs.com>
The question is: Did you feel you missed much?

;)

Remco

Ken wrote:
> 
> Warp wrote:
> >
> > Christoph Hormann <chr### [at] gmxde> wrote:
> > : BTW why didn't you post it in plain jpg?
> >
> >   Completely honest answer:
> >
> >   I had a little fight with Ken about whether posting in a format not supported
> > by every platform is OK or not. My opinion was that it would be polite to
> > post your files in a format supported by most platforms.
> 
> You completely failed to make your point or to understand mine. You
> posted in a format that is only used by 3-5% of the worlds computer
> users. My point was that you cater to the greatest common denominator
> and you have clearly not demonstrated this by your actions.
> 
> --
> Ken Tyler - 1400+ POV-Ray, Graphics, 3D Rendering, and Raytracing Links:
> http://home.pacbell.net/tylereng/index.html http://www.povray.org/links/


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From: Ken
Subject: Re: Current attic
Date: 11 Dec 2000 09:51:07
Message: <3A34EABB.ABE2831D@pacbell.net>
Remco de Korte wrote:
> 
> The question is: Did you feel you missed much?

I got over it.

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From: Warp
Subject: Re: Current attic
Date: 11 Dec 2000 10:26:41
Message: <3a34f231@news.povray.org>
Ken <tyl### [at] pacbellnet> wrote:
: You completely failed to make your point or to understand mine.

  An you failed to understand that I'm talking about politeness.

  I'm not saying which is the most practical way of doing it, or which is
the best way of giving your work to most people.
  What I'm saying is that in my opinion it's *POLITE* to post in a format
which everyone can read.
  You might have to make some compromises if you want to be polite in this
way, but I haven't questioned that. I only said my opinion about politeness.

  Think it in this way:
  Only a small % of people is vegetarian. However, if you are inviting people
to your house and making food for them, it's polite to have a vegetarian
meal as an option.
  It's very impolite to say "since you are only a minority I don't have
to consider you at all; eat this or don't eat anything. The door is that
way, by the way". That's extremely rude.

  Do you understand now?

-- 
main(i,_){for(_?--i,main(i+2,"FhhQHFIJD|FQTITFN]zRFHhhTBFHhhTBFysdB"[i]
):_;i&&_>1;printf("%s",_-70?_&1?"[]":" ":(_=0,"\n")),_/=2);} /*- Warp -*/


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From: Ken
Subject: Re: Current attic
Date: 11 Dec 2000 10:35:12
Message: <3A34F50C.87A71457@pacbell.net>
Warp wrote:

>   Do you understand now?

I have always understood your point. I am the Devil.

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