Forgot to mention that it also works OK if you define the spline_object ()
as a light_source...

#macro spline_object ()
   light_source {sPos rgb <whatever> glow {type 0 size 0.4}}
#end

...as in the attached image.

Bye,
Alan.

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In article <3a2d86db@news.povray.org>, "Alan Holding" 
<man### [at] lineonenet> wrote:

> After reading Andy Cocker's recent posts about trying to write a 
> macro which could do 'glows on a string', I tried to see if I could 
> use Chris's macro to come up with a solution.  And I think I have, as 
> the attached image shows.

Why use the macro when splines are available as a built-in feature? Are 
there some special features it has?


> Chris?  Am I OK to post it?

Which Chris? ;-)

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Chris Huff <chr### [at] maccom> wrote:
: Why use the macro when splines are available as a built-in feature? Are 
: there some special features it has?

  Can the built-in spline place the points evenly along the curve?

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main(i,_){for(_?--i,main(i+2,"FhhQHFIJD|FQTITFN]zRFHhhTBFHhhTBFysdB"[i]
):_;i&&_>1;printf("%s",_-70?_&1?"[]":" ":(_=0,"\n")),_/=2);} /*- Warp -*/

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Alan Holding <man### [at] lineonenet> wrote:
[snip]
> I'd post the code in p.t.s-f, but I don't think Chris has made the MegaPOV
> version of his Spline Macro publically available yet.
>
> Chris?  Am I OK to post it?

By all means, post the SplineMP.mcr file I sent you if it's needed for what
you wish to do (and allow others to do)...

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Chris Huff <chr### [at] maccom> wrote:
> Why use the macro when splines are available as a built-in feature? Are
> there some special features it has?

In a word, Yes.  I knew spline functions were available in POV patches when
I was working on my Spline macro file, and I expected that these would find
their way into a future official version of POV-Ray.  Because of this, I
didn't want to spend my time creating something that would very quickly
become obsolete (after all, I already had a spline include file that seemed
to serve people quite well).

As a result, simply calculating splines positions given a list of points is
the very least the file does.  Firstly, it offers the ability to create all
the cubic interpolating splines, from Catmull-Rom to cardinal right through
to Kochanek-Bartels (TCB) splines, as well as hermite and Bezier splines.
This gives much more control over the shape of the spline, and allows you to
explore all sorts of curves that may pass through a single set of points
(see the first page of the Spline Macro tutorial at
http://www.geocities.com/ccolefax/spline).

Also, as Warp mentioned, it includes a full set of sampling functions so you
can find the length of splines, create splines tensioned to fit a specified
length, and returns points evenly spaced along a spline.  It also includes a
caching function to speed up the usage of sampled splines.

On top of that, the system includes a set of macros that fully automate the
use of splines for animation and object creation, which can be customised
partly or completely.  Alan has used various features (the Bezier spline,
tensioning, sampling, custom object creation macros), and while it's true
similar results could have been achieved using the internal spline function,
to have things like the evenly distributed glows would entail recreating
much of what my macro file already does!

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"Chris Colefax" <chr### [at] tagpovrayorg> wrote in message
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>
> By all means, post the SplineMP.mcr file I sent you if it's needed for
what
> you wish to do (and allow others to do)...
>

OK.  I'll post it to povray.binaries.scene-files.

Fank yew.

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In article <3a2e2170@news.povray.org>, Warp <war### [at] tagpovrayorg> 
wrote:

>   Can the built-in spline place the points evenly along the curve?

Not on it's own, you would have to write the code to do that 
yourself(which shouldn't be too hard...) However, that's an interesting 
idea for a new spline feature...you could just add "constant_speed" or 
something to get that result.

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Personal: chr### [at] maccom, http://homepage.mac.com/chrishuff/
TAG: chr### [at] tagpovrayorg, http://tag.povray.org/

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Chris Huff <chr### [at] maccom> wrote:
: Not on it's own, you would have to write the code to do that 
: yourself(which shouldn't be too hard...) However, that's an interesting 
: idea for a new spline feature...you could just add "constant_speed" or 
: something to get that result.

  Why, when there's already a macro for doing that?
  Why double the effort?

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main(i,_){for(_?--i,main(i+2,"FhhQHFIJD|FQTITFN]zRFHhhTBFHhhTBFysdB"[i]
):_;i&&_>1;printf("%s",_-70?_&1?"[]":" ":(_=0,"\n")),_/=2);} /*- Warp -*/

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Alan,

Thanks very much. This looks great.

All the best,

Andy Cocker

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In article <3a2fb34b@news.povray.org>, Warp <war### [at] tagpovrayorg> 
wrote:

>   Why, when there's already a macro for doing that?

Speed, ease of use, easier to read scene files...


>   Why double the effort?

Adding that feature to the spline patch would make it *less* effort for 
others...or were you talking about having the user do that stuff in the 
scene file? I wasn't seriously suggesting that, I was suggesting that 
the features of Colefax's spline include file be added to the spline 
patch...which I think you probably agree would be a Good Thing. :-)

However, I think some simple macros for things like moving a point along 
a spline at a constant speed, getting the nearest point on a spline, 
getting the length of a spline, etc...would still be useful. Maybe as a 
supplement to the spline feature when it is included in 3.5, especially 
since even if those things are added to the patch, they probably won't 
make it into 3.5.

-- 
Christopher James Huff
Personal: chr### [at] maccom, http://homepage.mac.com/chrishuff/
TAG: chr### [at] tagpovrayorg, http://tag.povray.org/

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