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From: Slime
Subject: Re: Gerbera - Ninth Composition
Date: 24 Apr 2002 15:33:38
Message: <3cc70892$1@news.povray.org>
Between the two, I like the glass. But you might also try a metal vase with
a more simple shape, a nice semi-shiney silver texture might be really nice.

- Slime
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[ http://www.slimeland.com/images/ ]


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From: Tim Nikias
Subject: Re: Gerbera - Ninth Composition
Date: 24 Apr 2002 15:49:17
Message: <3CC70C13.F5A25290@gmx.de>
I cannot use any metallic vase, because the surrounding doesn't
fit. The background is a mesh, and there is a sky_sphere with
similiar coloring, yet slightly brighter for a better radiosity-effect.

I think I'll go for the dark glass one, because I have already put
a lot of effort on the glass-vase, "just" darkening it would keep
most of the work on the vase useful.

Slime wrote:

> Between the two, I like the glass. But you might also try a metal vase with
> a more simple shape, a nice semi-shiney silver texture might be really nice.
>
> - Slime
> [ http://www.slimeland.com/ ]
> [ http://www.slimeland.com/images/ ]

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From: Tim Nikias
Subject: Re: Gerbera - Ninth Composition
Date: 24 Apr 2002 15:50:46
Message: <3CC70C6C.F424204F@gmx.de>
That's nice. How did you know that the image would
be for a woman?

Since it seems that dark-glass is in favor by 3 to 0
(you/Slime/me vs null), I'll go with the dark glass, though
tweak a little more.


Arthur Flint wrote:

>
> I had the woman who lets me live with her take a look and
> she said that she likes the dark-glass one better.
>
> --
> Gis poste, Arto.

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From: Tim Nikias
Subject: Re: Gerbera - Ninth Composition
Date: 24 Apr 2002 15:59:04
Message: <3CC70DE3.C9D07958@gmx.de>
Here's the original trace, not reduced in size. No focal-blur-AA,
because that's time-intensive and makes it look nicer, not
better.


Bill DeWitt wrote:

>     Hard to judge it in such a low information image. I have been watching
> your progress with great interest, but this is not really doing it much
> justice. Probably time to do a large anti-aliased image.

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From: Is
Subject: Re: Gerbera - Ninth Composition
Date: 24 Apr 2002 16:14:18
Message: <3CC711FD.5070602@yahoo.com>
I think the whole thing is awesome.
Great job!

Tim Nikias wrote:
> Here's the original trace, not reduced in size. No focal-blur-AA,
> because that's time-intensive and makes it look nicer, not
> better.
> 
> 
> Bill DeWitt wrote:
> 
> 
>>    Hard to judge it in such a low information image. I have been watching
>>your progress with great interest, but this is not really doing it much
>>justice. Probably time to do a large anti-aliased image.
> 
> 
> --
> Tim Nikias
> Homepage: http://www.digitaltwilight.de/no_lights/index.html
> Email: Tim### [at] gmxde
> 
> 
> 
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From: Shay
Subject: Re: Gerbera - Ninth Composition
Date: 24 Apr 2002 16:42:49
Message: <3cc718c9@news.povray.org>
I too really like the dark glass version. I think it will look subtler in
the context of the entire image.

 -Shay

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From: Patrick Dugan
Subject: Re: Gerbera - Ninth Composition
Date: 24 Apr 2002 16:47:44
Message: <3cc719f0@news.povray.org>
I really like the image!

The glass vase seems a bit thin to me.  The top edge looks almost razor
sharp.


"Tim Nikias" <tim### [at] gmxde> wrote in message
news:3CC6E32A.706FAE52@gmx.de...
> So, here is the last and final Gerbera-Composition. Any more
> suggestions? Comments?
> If there's nothing to change (no additions anymore),
> this is going to be it.
>
> I tweaked the amount of smaller petals (from 500 to a more
> realistic 120) and the look of the larger outside petals (to
> match a real-life gerbera).
>
> --
> Tim Nikias
> Homepage: http://www.digitaltwilight.de/no_lights/index.html
> Email: Tim### [at] gmxde
>
>


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From: Tim Nikias
Subject: Re: Gerbera - Ninth Composition
Date: 25 Apr 2002 00:24:23
Message: <3CC784CE.1B3D7006@gmx.de>
I am looking into that already. Problem is, that two meshes
are joint there, but I'll see what I can do. Perhaps just place
a torus, or some blobs on the vertices? I don't know if
merge will work correctly with the mesh...

But thanks for pointing that out!

Patrick Dugan wrote:

> I really like the image!
>
> The glass vase seems a bit thin to me.  The top edge looks almost razor
> sharp.
>

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From: Bill DeWitt
Subject: Re: Gerbera - Ninth Composition
Date: 25 Apr 2002 00:28:43
Message: <3cc785fb$1@news.povray.org>
"Tim Nikias" <tim### [at] gmxde> wrote in message
news:3CC70DE3.C9D07958@gmx.de...
> Here's the original trace, not reduced in size. No focal-blur-AA,
> because that's time-intensive and makes it look nicer, not
> better.

    If you say so.

    I think this looks nice but I can't help but think that not having stair
stepping on the shoots would help. But the larger resolution allows some of
the detail that you worked so hard on show up.

    There is still the unfortunate areas of the glass that looks like
coincident surfaces or something.


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From: Steve
Subject: Re: Gerbera - Ninth Composition
Date: 25 Apr 2002 06:56:25
Message: <slrnacflcc.qe5.steve@zeropps.org.uk>
On Wed, 24 Apr 2002 18:54:02 +0200, Tim Nikias wrote:
> 
> So, here is the last and final Gerbera-Composition. Any more
> suggestions? Comments?
> If there's nothing to change (no additions anymore),
> this is going to be it.
> 
> I tweaked the amount of smaller petals (from 500 to a more
> realistic 120) and the look of the larger outside petals (to
> match a real-life gerbera).

You need area lights boy. 

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