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From: JRG
Subject: IRTC WIP take 4 (250 kb)
Date: 5 Jun 2001 12:34:48
Message: <3b1d0a28@news.povray.org>
I didn't have much spare time this week, so I've changed just a few things:
the light of the bulb now should be right. I tried area_light in the photons
block, but I lost the caustics. So I turned it off, but the caustics still
look poor compared to the previous scenes :-( .
Now the table looks much more dirty (even too much...) and I changed the
wood texture of the wall (the previous one was too warm).
Not sure if the smoke is right now...
And I've changed the clock.
Still to do:
spare parts of the spider-bot.
maybe some nut.
some other tools (have no idea which, suggestions needed!).
small paring-knife for the pencil.
rubber for the pencil.
image map for the book (this one is meant to be temporary).
sketches made directly on the table planks by the scientist (math formulae
et similia...).
scientist's breakfast left in his workbench...
Comments welcome.
JRG.


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From: AC
Subject: Re: IRTC WIP take 4 (250 kb)
Date: 5 Jun 2001 13:05:41
Message: <3b1d1165@news.povray.org>
"JRG" <jrg### [at] hotmailcom> wrote in message
news:3b1d0a28@news.povray.org...
> Now the table looks much more dirty (even too much...) and I changed the
> wood texture of the wall (the previous one was too warm).
To me the wall looked too much like desk in the color and style,
makeing it dificult to see were the desk starts and the wall ends.
It would be nice if it was a little bit more obvious.

> Not sure if the smoke is right now...
> And I've changed the clock.
> Still to do:
> spare parts of the spider-bot.
> maybe some nut.
Screws & nuts in some container maybe.

> some other tools (have no idea which, suggestions needed!).
Nice soldering iron, how about some "soldering wire" (what ever it is called
in english)

> small paring-knife for the pencil.
> rubber for the pencil.
I know that some people chew on their pencils , That might look good too.
and then use a normal rubber next to it or somthing.

> Comments welcome.
It looked more natrual when the computer screen was angled like in take 3.

Ambis


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From: Bill DeWitt
Subject: Re: IRTC WIP take 4 (250 kb)
Date: 5 Jun 2001 13:06:45
Message: <3b1d11a5$1@news.povray.org>
"JRG" <jrg### [at] hotmailcom> wrote :
>
> Comments welcome.

    Anyone who leaves a soldering iron on his wooden bench once will have
done it more than once. He will also have left glasses of ice water on it
before.


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From: Is
Subject: Re: IRTC WIP take 4 (250 kb)
Date: 5 Jun 2001 14:48:50
Message: <3B1D28F1.4000808@yahoo.com>
The analog clock looks a lot better, and the papers on the walls add a 
lot. I think the table looks fine, but it's hard to distinguish where 
the table ends and the wall starts.

There is something about the batteries that look fake, but I can't put 
it into words. wrong dimensions? too clean? I dunno...

looks great though

JRG wrote:

> I didn't have much spare time this week, so I've changed just a few things:
> the light of the bulb now should be right. I tried area_light in the photons
> block, but I lost the caustics. So I turned it off, but the caustics still
> look poor compared to the previous scenes :-( .
> Now the table looks much more dirty (even too much...) and I changed the
> wood texture of the wall (the previous one was too warm).
> Not sure if the smoke is right now...
> And I've changed the clock.
> Still to do:
> spare parts of the spider-bot.
> maybe some nut.
> some other tools (have no idea which, suggestions needed!).
> small paring-knife for the pencil.
> rubber for the pencil.
> image map for the book (this one is meant to be temporary).
> sketches made directly on the table planks by the scientist (math formulae
> et similia...).
> scientist's breakfast left in his workbench...
> Comments welcome.
> JRG.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> irtc_big.jpg
> 
> Content-Type:
> 
> image/jpeg
> Content-Encoding:
> 
> x-uuencode
> 
>


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From: Sander
Subject: Re: IRTC WIP take 4 (250 kb)
Date: 5 Jun 2001 15:35:53
Message: <MPG.158752f0c5f87cb69897be@NEWS.POVRAY.ORG>
In article <3b1d0a28@news.povray.org>, JRG says...
> I didn't have much spare time this week, so I've changed just a few things:
> the light of the bulb now should be right. I tried area_light in the photons
> block, but I lost the caustics. So I turned it off, but the caustics still
> look poor compared to the previous scenes :-( .
> Now the table looks much more dirty (even too much...) and I changed the
> wood texture of the wall (the previous one was too warm).
> Not sure if the smoke is right now...
> And I've changed the clock.
> Still to do:
> spare parts of the spider-bot.
> maybe some nut.
> some other tools (have no idea which, suggestions needed!).
> small paring-knife for the pencil.
> rubber for the pencil.
> image map for the book (this one is meant to be temporary).
> sketches made directly on the table planks by the scientist (math formulae
> et similia...).
> scientist's breakfast left in his workbench...
> Comments welcome.
> JRG.
> 
This is really getting better and much better each time! All those 
suggestions to make it more real are just sheer jealousy :))
-- 
Regards,  Sander


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From: Reusser
Subject: Re: IRTC WIP take 4 (250 kb)
Date: 5 Jun 2001 17:45:04
Message: <3B1D5256.3EEADC66@chorus.net>
JRG wrote:

> some other tools (have no idea which, suggestions needed!).

Wow.  The image looks great, but it seems like it's missing a step.  Maybe some
small tools would help.  I can't imaging putting screws into the spider's legs
with that screwdriver.  Also, as I look at my desk, things seem to overlap
quite a bit.  Maybe something as simple as the pencil on the paper or the
screwdriver on top of the wire would add some realism.  Finally, maybe a couple
of spheres at the ends of the lightbulb and a switch on the lamp would help.
Keep in mind that these are just my opinions and that your picture looks
great.  Keep up the good work.

 - Rico


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From: Francois Labreque
Subject: Re: IRTC WIP take 4 (250 kb)
Date: 5 Jun 2001 18:09:51
Message: <3B1D5562.84ED5B63@videotron.ca>
JRG wrote:
> 
> Comments welcome.

Getting along quite nice, I must say.

However, as others have pointed out, there should be a better
demarcation between the table and the wall.  The computer screen isn't
deep enough; as it is, it looks like it has roughly the same depth as
the lamp, which certainly isn't the case - even my flat LCD screen's
base is bigger than my desk lamp's base.  It is also too close to the
wall.

Things to add:
- spare parts, left-overs and other steel thingamagigs.
- post-it notes on the computer screen.
- scratches and burn marks on the table.
- a half-eaten sandwich.

IMHO, of course.

-- 
Francois Labreque | Now, at this point, I am not even going to tell you
    flabreque     | to twiddle your knob, because as we all know, you
        @         | have had plently of practice in that skill by now...
   videotron.ca   |             - StvCD7


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From: Nathan Kopp
Subject: Re: IRTC WIP take 4 (250 kb)
Date: 5 Jun 2001 21:14:04
Message: <3b1d83dc$1@news.povray.org>
"Bill DeWitt" <bde### [at] cflrrcom> wrote...
>
>     Anyone who leaves a soldering iron on his wooden bench once will have
> done it more than once.

Unless he burns his house down the first time!

> He will also have left glasses of ice water on it
> before.

Now that makes more sense.  :-)

About the soldering iron, though.... it looks off-balance... it looks like
the weight of the cord would cause the back to drop and make the tip lift
off of the table.

-Nathan


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From: Xplo Eristotle
Subject: Re: IRTC WIP take 4 (250 kb)
Date: 5 Jun 2001 21:17:14
Message: <3B1D84BC.AC776B75@infomagic.com>
The table's not too dirty at all, but it *does* look too much like the wall.

Didn't the old smoke look more like a single strand? I think I preferred that.

Smears and fingerprints on the glass.

The batteries could use some slight reflection, maybe. So could the
lamp.. or maybe just make that a color which is almost, but not QUITE,
black. (Very few things in the real world are so black that they soak up
all the light that hits them.)

Lots and lots and LOTS of junk. Another pencil, or maybe a pen, some
more electronic test equipment, various sizes of screws, wire clippings,
crumbs. And why does this man have no coffee? More scrap paper with
numbers and things scribbled on it. And more degradation: stains on the
table, stains on the paper, dings in the metal bits, scratches and
imperfections in the table wood, teeth marks on the pencil, dust on the
monitor, etc etc...

Oh, and what on earth are you using for fill lighting? In some places it
looks like ambient or a fill light, and in others it looks like it might
be radiosity.. radiosity would be the far better choice here.

-Xplo


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From: Ross Litscher
Subject: Re: IRTC WIP take 4 (250 kb)
Date: 5 Jun 2001 22:31:42
Message: <3b1d960e$1@news.povray.org>
> Lots and lots and LOTS of junk. Another pencil, or maybe a pen, some
> more electronic test equipment, various sizes of screws, wire clippings,
> crumbs. And why does this man have no coffee? More scrap paper with
> numbers and things scribbled on it. And more degradation: stains on the
> table, stains on the paper, dings in the metal bits, scratches and
> imperfections in the table wood, teeth marks on the pencil, dust on the
> monitor, etc etc...
>

Does megapov still not have a working implementation of Clutter()?


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