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From: Christoph Hormann
Subject: Re: Drying fisher net
Date: 14 Nov 2000 08:35:18
Message: <3A113F96.5C5D5B96@schunter.etc.tu-bs.de>
Chris Huff wrote:
> 
> Or just render an image from above the scene and use the depth
> post_process...
> 

Or a gradient pigment with black/white color_map and 
finish { ambient 1 diffuse 0 ) combined with an orthographic camera.

Christoph

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From: Tony[B]
Subject: Re: Drying fisher net
Date: 14 Nov 2000 08:44:02
Message: <3a1141a2@news.povray.org>
Pretty. From what you're saying about increasing resolution, it sounds like
you're not using the Provot method, but rather the Elias method... The
latter is slower and the first doesn't need increases in resolution to lower
stiffness. You merely change a variable or two.


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From: Jérôme M  Berger
Subject: Re: Drying fisher net
Date: 14 Nov 2000 09:23:09
Message: <3A114ACC.A046094E@tapasmail.net>
Christoph Hormann wrote:
> 
> Chris Huff wrote:
> >
> > Or just render an image from above the scene and use the depth
> > post_process...
> >
> 
> Or a gradient pigment with black/white color_map and
> finish { ambient 1 diffuse 0 ) combined with an orthographic camera.
> 
	Well, obviously there's no lack of solutions to generate the height
field, now if implementing it in a fast and efficient way was as easy
:))

	Just a note though: the problem with this hf approach is that the cloth
cannot fold under the objects (as it does in both examples I've
posted...)


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From: Jérôme M  Berger
Subject: Re: Drying fisher net
Date: 14 Nov 2000 09:27:11
Message: <3A114BBC.1E996031@tapasmail.net>
"Tony[B]" wrote:
> 
> Pretty. From what you're saying about increasing resolution, it sounds like
> you're not using the Provot method, but rather the Elias method... The
> latter is slower and the first doesn't need increases in resolution to lower
> stiffness. You merely change a variable or two.
	AFAIK, neither. I developped the method from scratch along with the
program... There *is* a parameter that control stiffness, but no matter
how small you set it, the cloth can only fold at intersections so if the
intersections are too far appart (eg low resolution), the result will
appear stiff.


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From: Fabien Mosen
Subject: Re: Drying fisher net
Date: 14 Nov 2000 14:32:21
Message: <3A119366.B59989A6@skynet.be>


>         Just a note though: the problem with this hf approach is that the cloth
> cannot fold under the objects (as it does in both examples I've
> posted...)

Or use the "object" pattern to do a 3D scan of objects, in some kind
of voxels approach.

Fabien.


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From: Chris Huff
Subject: Re: Drying fisher net
Date: 14 Nov 2000 17:17:30
Message: <chrishuff-4710C4.17174314112000@news.povray.org>
In article <3A113F96.5C5D5B96@schunter.etc.tu-bs.de>, 
chr### [at] gmxde wrote:

> Or a gradient pigment with black/white color_map and 
> finish { ambient 1 diffuse 0 ) combined with an orthographic camera.

Or give everything a plain white pigment with ambient 1 diffuse 0, and 
use a black fog...or make everything black and use a white fog...

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From: Pabs
Subject: Re: Drying fisher net
Date: 14 Nov 2000 22:40:27
Message: <3A1205FD.BAC0042D@hotmail.com>
I s'pose U know about
http://developer.intel.com/software/idap/games/clothsample/index.htm
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From: Jérôme M  Berger
Subject: Re: Drying fisher net
Date: 15 Nov 2000 04:24:51
Message: <3A125663.5862D96B@tapasmail.net>
Pabs wrote:
> 
>  I s'pose U know about
> http://developer.intel.com/software/idap/games/clothsample/index.htm
	Yes, I saw it after I already had something working. Actually the basic
idea is the same, but my physical model has evolved quite a bit from
there...


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From: Steve
Subject: Re: Drying fisher net
Date: 15 Nov 2000 10:15:05
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Wow, thats so awesome.  Pity it wasn't ready for the Sea round
of the IRTC. 

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From: Jérôme M  Berger
Subject: Re: Drying fisher net
Date: 15 Nov 2000 12:10:59
Message: <3A12C3A3.B1E5818A@tapasmail.net>
Steve wrote:
> 
> Wow, thats so awesome.  Pity it wasn't ready for the Sea round
> of the IRTC.
> 
	Eh! It wasn't even started by the end of the sea round! ;))


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