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now try this one
http://www.kleinbottle.com/drinking_mug_klein_bottle.htm
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Anton Sherwood -- br0### [at] p0b0x com -- http://ogre.nu/
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Tim Martin wrote:
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> This still needs a bit of work on the handle, but most of it is there.
> Can anyone guess what the molecule is? (it's kind of obvious ;-) )
I have the script for an animation of this chemical (and others for
EtOH and nicotine). I'll render and post them sometime.
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On Thu, 14 Sep 2000 22:12:09 -0700, Anton Sherwood <bro### [at] poboxcom>
wrote:
>now try this one
>http://www.kleinbottle.com/drinking_mug_klein_bottle.htm
Here ya go....need to fill with liquid though, so that you can see
that it is all one surface.
---Oldstench---
Avoid herd mentality.
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damn i was just toying with the idea of doing the exact same mug!!
(SERIOUSLY!!) - based on the one on that cool geek shopping site :)
Rick
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Psychomek wrote in message <39C16064.AF746828@home.com>...
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>Tim Martin wrote:
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>> Oldstench wrote in message ...
>> >On Thu, 14 Sep 2000 20:55:30 +0100, "Tim Martin"
>> ><wir### [at] asymptoticcouk> wrote:
>> >
>> >>This still needs a bit of work on the handle, but most of it is there.
Can
>> >>anyone guess what the molecule is? (it's kind of obvious ;-) )
>> >>
>> >>Tim
>> >
>> >Very nice model, and I like the stain on the cd...
>>
>> Thanks. The CD was simply done by putting it straight on the scanner,
>> ring-marks and all. I actually put my drinks on the freeserve CD most of
the
>> time (best use for it).
>
>I think an AOL one would be better.....
I work in a computer repair place, and we used to have a lot more problems
with freeserve screwing up machines - it's the most popular free ISP here in
the UK (no idea why). Actually, I've only got 2 AOL CDs in my collection,
compared to 8 compuserves and 3 freeserves.
Tim
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>Except it's not a real Klein bottle, since POV doesn't work in 4 dimensions.
>Hmmm, anyone care to do a patch? ;-)
>
>Tim
Oldstench is confused...I modeled the mug just as it was shown on the
web-site, didn't know I was supposed to be modeling a 4th dimensional
object.
---Oldstench---
Avoid herd mentality.
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Oldstench wrote in message ...
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>>
>>Except it's not a real Klein bottle, since POV doesn't work in 4
dimensions.
>>Hmmm, anyone care to do a patch? ;-)
>>
>>Tim
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>Oldstench is confused...I modeled the mug just as it was shown on the
>web-site, didn't know I was supposed to be modeling a 4th dimensional
>object.
AIUI, a Klein bottle is a 4 dimensional object. What they have on that site
is a 3-dimesional projection of a Klein bottle (Think of trying to draw a
mobius strip on 2D paper). It's as close as you can get in a 3D world, and
it is still a damn fine mug.
Tim
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Tim Martin wrote:
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> AIUI, a Klein bottle is a 4 dimensional object. What they have on that site
> is a 3-dimesional projection of a Klein bottle (Think of trying to draw a
> mobius strip on 2D paper). It's as close as you can get in a 3D world, and
> it is still a damn fine mug.
>
> Tim
Not at all, a Klein bottle can exist in 3D space (as the mig
demonstrates). What is impossible is to have a Klein bottle that doesn't
cross itself in 3D space, you need at least 4D for that. As for drawing
a moebius strip on 2D paper, you can't because a moebius strip is a
surface (eg it has 2 dimensions) but the klein bottle is also a surface
and not a volume, that's where your analogy fails...
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* to Hyde... * http://www.enst.fr/~jberger
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news:39C5F568.1F0BCC30@enst.fr...
> Not at all, a Klein bottle can exist in 3D space (as the mig
> demonstrates).
For a moment this had me very excited and/or confused. I feel it reflects
badly on me that for a moment I genuinly considered the notion that
jet-fighters might well implement Klein bottles and similiar topology in
their design...
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Tom Melly wrote:
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> news:39C5F568.1F0BCC30@enst.fr...
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> > Not at all, a Klein bottle can exist in 3D space (as the mig
> > demonstrates).
>
> For a moment this had me very excited and/or confused. I feel it reflects
> badly on me that for a moment I genuinly considered the notion that
> jet-fighters might well implement Klein bottles and similiar topology in
> their design...
Ooops, sorry! Here's what happens when you type too fast ;-))
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* to Hyde... * http://www.enst.fr/~jberger
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