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From: Bob Hughes
Subject: Re: September Moon WIP (104 K)
Date: 6 Sep 2000 12:04:42
Message: <39b66b1a@news.povray.org>
"Margus Ramst" <mar### [at] peakeduee> wrote in message
news:39B5055E.6A974AA8@peak.edu.ee...
| An old scene that some might still remember. I recently found some
inspiration
| and decided to resume work on it.
| Comments/suggestions would be appreciated; for example what do you think
about
| the texture of the cliff-face, the sky, and the cloud? Also, striking a
balance
| between too dark and too bright is problematic in a night scene, does it
look OK
| on your monitor?

Yeah, I remember this one because of the long discussion about moonlit scene
colors :-)
It looks fine here on my screen, just took a while for it to soak in; one of
those kinds of scenes I guess that take some time to know what you're
seeing.  The cloud looks great.
I'd have to say that the moonlight should be brighter in the reflection,
very near the same intensity as the Moon itself.  But then that the stars
might not show at all due to the small perturbations on the water surface.
That's only because those waves seem prominent and distant enough to imply
there is enough disturbance to prevent the tiny specks of stars from being
visible.  In fact the moon reflection sort of proves that out.  I could be
very wrong though.  Simply that the only times I can recall actually seeing
stars reflected in water is from rather close up.
Oh, another thing.  The Moon appears greenish to me (I know, I tend to see
green a lot as some people might know) instead of the usual low-in-the-sky
yellow, orange, or reddish color.  Clear air or not I'd expect it to be more
yellow-white if nothing else.  Although I've ended up with a blue moon
before so I can't judge well  :-)

Bob


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From: Margus Ramst
Subject: Re: September Moon WIP (104 K)
Date: 6 Sep 2000 13:26:29
Message: <39B67022.3346200E@peak.edu.ee>

> 
> Looks good to me. Nice pic. How did you make the moon (glance on the water) and the
> sky?
> 

The moon is a sphere with the map of Moon's surface; foreground stars done with
Chris Colefax's galaxy macro, background is a sky_sphere; atmosphere is
absorbing & emitting media.

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Margus Ramst

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From: Margus Ramst
Subject: Re: September Moon WIP (104 K)
Date: 6 Sep 2000 13:33:05
Message: <39B67194.58BF631B@peak.edu.ee>
Marc-Hendrik Bremer wrote:
> 
> Nice cloud and moon, but the stars look not right.
> Don't know, too many or wrong hemisphere (for me)?
>

Perhaps too many. Their placement is random.

> Is there an .inc or a macro for the trees?
> 

The trees are just images mapped on triangles. Placement is indeed done with
macros.

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Margus Ramst

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From: Margus Ramst
Subject: Re: September Moon WIP (104 K)
Date: 6 Sep 2000 13:35:50
Message: <39B67256.86D16EFF@peak.edu.ee>
Bob Hughes wrote:
> 
> Oh, another thing.  The Moon appears greenish to me (I know, I tend to see
> green a lot as some people might know) instead of the usual low-in-the-sky
> yellow, orange, or reddish color.

The moon itself is pale yellow; but combined with the bluish atmosphere it might
look a bit green.

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Margus Ramst

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From: Mark Wagner
Subject: Re: September Moon WIP (104 K)
Date: 7 Sep 2000 02:49:15
Message: <39b73a6b$1@news.povray.org>
There are a couple of include files out there that can show the correct star
positions for any point on the Earth.  I don't have the links for them, but
I'm sure someone does.

Mark


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From: Ken
Subject: Re: September Moon WIP (104 K)
Date: 7 Sep 2000 02:53:11
Message: <39B73AF4.53D03476@pacbell.net>
Mark Wagner wrote:
> 
> I don't have the links for them, but I'm sure someone does.

http://www.povray.org/links/POV-Ray_Include_Macro_and_Object_Files/

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From: Margus Ramst
Subject: Re: September Moon WIP (104 K)
Date: 7 Sep 2000 08:12:39
Message: <39B77801.4B17CB17@peak.edu.ee>
Mark Wagner wrote:
> 
> There are a couple of include files out there that can show the correct star
> positions for any point on the Earth.  I don't have the links for them, but
> I'm sure someone does.
> 

I'll look into it, but this means I have to figure out where on earth this place
could be located :)

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Margus Ramst

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From: David Fontaine
Subject: Re: September Moon WIP (104 K)
Date: 7 Sep 2000 18:13:49
Message: <39B81211.AA914979@faricy.net>
Ken wrote:

> 14000 POV-Ray, Graphics, 3D Rendering, and Raytracing Links:

You thought noone would notice an extra zero, huh?

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From: Anton Sherwood
Subject: Re: September Moon WIP (104 K)
Date: 8 Sep 2000 01:50:50
Message: <39B87FEF.8E339057@pobox.com>
Margus Ramst wrote:
> Comments/suggestions would be appreciated; for example what do you think
> about the texture of the cliff-face, the sky, and the cloud? Also, striking
> a balance between too dark and too bright is problematic in a night scene,
> does it look OK on your monitor?

I couldn't see much until I used GIMP to "Equalize" colors - which
resulted in a day scene with a night sky!  It looks very good to me.

The far shore is a bit strange.  Is there a small island in that end of
the lake?

-- 
Anton Sherwood  --  br0### [at] p0b0xcom  --  http://ogre.nu/


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From: Margus Ramst
Subject: Re: September Moon WIP (104 K)
Date: 8 Sep 2000 07:19:37
Message: <39B8BD27.450EA1D6@peak.edu.ee>
Anton Sherwood wrote:
> 
> The far shore is a bit strange.  Is there a small island in that end of
> the lake?
> 

There is an island in the middle of the lake; the scene uses a fairly large
camera angle so perspective is a bit screwy.

-- 
Margus Ramst

Personal e-mail: mar### [at] peakeduee
TAG (Team Assistance Group) e-mail: mar### [at] tagpovrayorg


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