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From: Paul Vanukoff
Subject: Re: Fast Clouds (non media)
Date: 1 Aug 2000 09:29:35
Message: <3986d0bf@news.povray.org>
Perhaps utilize the layered planes (or spheres) trick. Of course, if you do
enough layers, you might as well use media at that point, due to speed
considerations.

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"Tony[B]" <ben### [at] panamac-comnet> wrote in message
news:3986c727@news.povray.org...
> That is beautiful. I've been fighting with my media clouds to get
something
> like that. The problem is that with absorption, the light fades off at
some
> point, and it doesn't look right. If we could somehow give your clouds
some
> more depth, they would be perfect.


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From: Gail Shaw
Subject: Re: Fast Clouds (non media)
Date: 1 Aug 2000 11:03:49
Message: <3986e6d5@news.povray.org>
Abe wrote in message <398### [at] taconicnet>...
>I'm sure someone has already tried this, but I haven't seen it yet, so
>I'm bringing it here.
>
>The cloud technique is fairly straight forward; a black hole warp is
>used to displace shaded areas away from the light source. The pigment is
>applied to a curved cloud plane and lit by ambient light. Although I was
>using MegaPOV, the method does not depend on it.
>
>The calculation sky colors based on sun elevation is sort of am
>empirical hack. Not very straight forward, it still needs alot of work.
>
>Anyway, the thing to look at is the lighting of the clouds in relation
>to the sun.
>
>Abe


Very nice. I like the first two the most. What pattern are you using for the
cloud layer? bozo?

Gail
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From: Josh English
Subject: Re: Fast Clouds (non media)
Date: 1 Aug 2000 11:38:34
Message: <3986EF88.6FB5AA8C@spiritone.com>
Beautiful. Share the source, please, because this is really really nice. What
is the render time?
Josh

Abe wrote:

> I'm sure someone has already tried this, but I haven't seen it yet, so
> I'm bringing it here.
>
> The cloud technique is fairly straight forward; a black hole warp is
> used to displace shaded areas away from the light source. The pigment is
> applied to a curved cloud plane and lit by ambient light. Although I was
> using MegaPOV, the method does not depend on it.
>
> The calculation sky colors based on sun elevation is sort of am
> empirical hack. Not very straight forward, it still needs alot of work.
>
> Anyway, the thing to look at is the lighting of the clouds in relation
> to the sun.
>
> Abe
>
> P.S. The thing in the water on the lower right - don't ask me what it
> is, I don't know. It just sort of showed up...thought it might be a
> whale or something.
>
>   ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>  [Image]  [Image]  [Image]

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From: Karl Pelzer
Subject: Re: Fast Clouds (non media)
Date: 1 Aug 2000 13:04:36
Message: <39870389.A1D67918@t-online.de>
Abe wrote:
> Anyway, the thing to look at is the lighting of the clouds in relation
> to the sun.
Very interesting. I think the interaction of clouds (as a curved plane)
and sun is remarkable!

Karl


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From: Fabien Hénon
Subject: Re: Fast Clouds (non media)
Date: 1 Aug 2000 16:43:20
Message: <39871A87.9EFD8551@club-internet.fr>
I think the same. Gorgeous pictures !
I rendered once (upon a time a picture with a media sky that took a whole week to
render on my former K6-200)
Now that I think of it, maybe I should try with the Duron.



> Beautiful. Share the source, please, because this is really really nice. What
> is the render time?
> Josh
>
> Abe wrote:
>
> > I'm sure someone has already tried this, but I haven't seen it yet, so
> > I'm bringing it here.
> >
> > The cloud technique is fairly straight forward; a black hole warp is
> > used to displace shaded areas away from the light source. The pigment is
> > applied to a curved cloud plane and lit by ambient light. Although I was
> > using MegaPOV, the method does not depend on it.
> >
> > The calculation sky colors based on sun elevation is sort of am
> > empirical hack. Not very straight forward, it still needs alot of work.
> >
> > Anyway, the thing to look at is the lighting of the clouds in relation
> > to the sun.
> >
> > Abe
> >
> > P.S. The thing in the water on the lower right - don't ask me what it
> > is, I don't know. It just sort of showed up...thought it might be a
> > whale or something.
> >
> >   ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >  [Image]  [Image]  [Image]
>
> --
> Josh English -- Lexiphanic Lethomaniac
> eng### [at] spiritonecom
> The POV-Ray Cyclopedia http://www.spiritone.com/~english/cyclopedia/


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From: Abe
Subject: Re: Fast Clouds (non media)
Date: 1 Aug 2000 16:48:53
Message: <398737AE.A2978AD6@taconic.net>
Displacement is probably the wrong term to use here. Consider it like
this: make a standard bozo texture cloud which has light edges and is
dark in the middle. However, to be more realistic, the edges should be
lighter on the side closer to the sun and darker on the farther side. I
tried to accomplish this by pushing the darker middle part away from the
light source.

Specifically, I used a inverse black hole warp centered on the sun to
offset the darker portions of the clouds. 

Hope this helps.

Abe

"Greg M. Johnson" wrote:

> Impressive:  an English, I-haven't-touched-displacements-yet,  explanation,
> please?


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From: Abe
Subject: Re: Fast Clouds (non media)
Date: 1 Aug 2000 16:51:14
Message: <3987383E.4863DE01@taconic.net>
The pattern was an implementation of Perlin type noise using the
functions in MegaPOV.

Abe

Gail Shaw wrote:

> Very nice. I like the first two the most. What pattern are you using for the
> cloud layer? bozo?
> 
> Gail


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From: Steve
Subject: Re: Fast Clouds (non media)
Date: 1 Aug 2000 18:44:54
Message: <slrn8oej08.17g.steve@zero-pps.localdomain>
That's a real interesting image.  Nice work. 

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From: Abe
Subject: Re: Fast Clouds (non media)
Date: 1 Aug 2000 21:13:32
Message: <398775B6.592331B@taconic.net>
Sorry about that. Render times were on the order of 3m40s on a 90MHz
Pentium. The biggest time drag factor is probably the reflection on the
water.
Source posted (for what it's worth) in p.b.s-f

Abe

Josh English wrote:
> 
> Beautiful. Share the source, please, because this is really really nice. What
> is the render time?
> Josh


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From: ZeroBlue
Subject: SV: Fast Clouds (non media)
Date: 5 Aug 2000 17:46:59
Message: <398c8b53@news.povray.org>
> I'm sure someone has already tried this, but I haven't seen it yet, so
> I'm bringing it here.
>
> The cloud technique is fairly straight forward; a black hole warp is
> used to displace shaded areas away from the light source. The pigment is
> applied to a curved cloud plane and lit by ambient light. Although I was
> using MegaPOV, the method does not depend on it.
>
> The calculation sky colors based on sun elevation is sort of am
> empirical hack. Not very straight forward, it still needs alot of work.
>
> Anyway, the thing to look at is the lighting of the clouds in relation
> to the sun.
>
> Abe
>
> P.S. The thing in the water on the lower right - don't ask me what it
> is, I don't know. It just sort of showed up...thought it might be a
> whale or something.

Very very nice result indeed!
And what a cool whale! =)

/R


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