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From: Glen Berry
Subject: Re: Blobby alienfighter
Date: 22 Mar 2000 00:02:28
Message: <FlDYOGh5pH9Bm28gdDS0z=0AtFna@4ax.com>
On Tue, 21 Mar 2000 21:09:07 -0600, "Bob Hughes"
<omn### [at] hotmailcom?subject=PoV-News:> wrote:

>I'm sure someone will bring up the fact that there 
>probably shouldn't be such glowing lights in the 
>vacuum of space.

The "fact" ?

On the contrary, these lighting effects are perfectly reasonable,
because they are the sort of effects that can be produced within one's
eye, a window pane, or inside a camera. The halation in this scene
isn't being produced in the vacuum of space, but in the vicinity of
the observer, which could very well contain an atmosphere,
less-than-perfect optics (eye or camera), and a less than perfect
recording medium (film, sensor, or retina.)

The halation is a circular pattern centered at the point of maximum
brightness, not a projected "beam", such as an automobile's headlight
shining through a hazy atmosphere. This sort of halation can be
produced, even if viewing an object located in deep space.

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For the record, this image is one of the best space images I remember
seeing here.  I hope to see more work like this in the future.

Later,
Glen Berry


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From: Saadat Saeed
Subject: Re: Blobby alienfighter
Date: 22 Mar 2000 00:29:25
Message: <01bf93bf$0db58620$6200a8c0@bharebahwsasa>
Haven't you seen B-Grade science fiction movies Bob???

Bob Hughes <omn### [at] hotmailcom?subject=PoV-News:> wrote in article
<38d83982@news.povray.org>...
> A very cool spacecraft.  Nice going.  I'm sure someone will bring up the
fact
> that there probably shouldn't be such glowing lights in the vacuum of
space.
> Oops, I just did--- pay no attention to me.
> 
> Bob
> 
> 
> 
>


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From: TonyB
Subject: Re: Blobby alienfighter
Date: 22 Mar 2000 00:51:32
Message: <38d85f64@news.povray.org>
BTW, I must know how you did the stars in the bg. Please explain.


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From: David Wilkinson
Subject: Re: Blobby alienfighter
Date: 22 Mar 2000 05:30:18
Message: <2k7hdss5qtfq59t6tur4a43g641pft6g96@4ax.com>
On Wed, 22 Mar 2000 04:01:01 +0100, ZEGER KNAEPEN
<ZEG### [at] studentkuleuvenacbe> wrote:

>I consider it finished.  What do you think?  I had to fake media using
>discs.
>
>ZK

Spaceship renders are usually a big turn off for me, but this has something I
find very attractive.  Thinking about the glow from the "headlights", perhaps we
could consider this as some sort of micrometeorite shield that is visible as an
ionisation glow :-)

I like it so much I shall use it as wallpaper for a while. Thanks Zeger.

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From: Chris Huff
Subject: Re: Blobby alienfighter
Date: 22 Mar 2000 06:59:40
Message: <chrishuff_99-C9F7A3.07014622032000@news.povray.org>
In article <2k7hdss5qtfq59t6tur4a43g641pft6g96@4ax.com>, David 
Wilkinson <dav### [at] cableinetcouk> wrote:

> Spaceship renders are usually a big turn off for me, but this has 
> something I find very attractive.  Thinking about the glow from the 
> "headlights", perhaps we could consider this as some sort of 
> micrometeorite shield that is visible as an ionisation glow :-)

Nice explanation, but ionization of what? The gaseous remains of a 
meteorite that just hit/got hit?
Anyway, as mentioned by Glen Berry, this sort of thing is usually caused 
by the lens, not the atmosphere.

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From: Tom Melly
Subject: Re: Blobby alienfighter
Date: 22 Mar 2000 07:37:04
Message: <38d8be70$1@news.povray.org>
Very, very nice.

Bob Hughes <omn### [at] hotmailcom?subject=PoV-News:> wrote in message
news:38d83982@news.povray.org...
> A very cool spacecraft.  Nice going.  I'm sure someone will bring up the
fact
> that there probably shouldn't be such glowing lights in the vacuum of
space.
> Oops, I just did--- pay no attention to me.
>

The gaseous debris of a recently destroyed foe?


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From: Gilles Tran
Subject: Re: Blobby alienfighter
Date: 22 Mar 2000 08:39:14
Message: <38D8CD2A.125DCF3D@inapg.inra.fr>
Bob Hughes wrote:

> A very cool spacecraft.  Nice going.  I'm sure someone will bring up the fact
> that there probably shouldn't be such glowing lights in the vacuum of space.
> Oops, I just did--- pay no attention to me.

As we all know, alien spacepeople are very clever beings who enjoy practical
jokes. Having lights glowing in vacumm is a minor feat, easily done by having a
thousands of little light bulbs of varying intensity attached to the ship's tail,
thus recreating the glow effect.
G.


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From: Saadat Saeed
Subject: Re: Blobby alienfighter
Date: 22 Mar 2000 09:42:36
Message: <01bf940c$56af2320$6200a8c0@bharebahwsasa>
Most probably a background image.....

TonyB <ben### [at] panamac-comnet> wrote in article
<38d85f64@news.povray.org>...
> BTW, I must know how you did the stars in the bg. Please explain.
> 
> 
>


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From: Zeger Knaepen
Subject: Re: Blobby alienfighter
Date: 22 Mar 2000 10:46:07
Message: <38D8EDD4.2DF10A7E@student.kuleuven.ac.be>
You're right.  It isn't called a 'lensflare' fot nothing :-)
But still it gives quite a humid look to the scene , I think.

> 
> For the record, this image is one of the best space images I remember
> seeing here.  I hope to see more work like this in the future.
Thank you!  I'll try to make some  other blobby spacecraft someday,
but school has precedence now :-)

 
> Later,
> Glen Berry
ZK
http://www.crosswinds.net/~povplace


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From: Zeger Knaepen
Subject: Re: Blobby alienfighter
Date: 22 Mar 2000 10:47:38
Message: <38D8EE2F.BFA094BF@student.kuleuven.ac.be>
TonyB wrote:
> 
> >I consider it finished.  What do you think?
> 
> Yup, that looks finished to me too. Sweeet!
Thanks!
 
> >I had to fake media using discs.
> 
> I can't tell. That means you did a good job. :)
OK.  Good to know.  But it isn't as flexible as media.

ZK
http://www.crosswinds.net/~povplace


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