Try checking the stuff done by Hieronymus Bosch and you might not think that
way: http://metalab.unc.edu/wm/paint/auth/bosch/
I have a picture of The Temptation of St. Anthony and always been amazing to me
that the guy was from 1500 A.D.  Many of the paintings remind me of 20th century
stuff, such as Dali.

Bob

"David Fontaine" <dav### [at] faricynet> wrote in message
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| > Since art move beyond frames (20th century) this is not very common any
| > more. Notice how many modern paintings have no frame, or at most an
| > insignificant one, while some 17th century masterpieces are more frame
| > then painting. Either way it's an artistic choice with a functionality.
| > Makes you wonder about a monitor as frame.
|
| IMHO I don't like all that old religious art. It always shows people and
| everything is flat, kind of drab I think. (How many Madonna with Child
| paintings can there be anyway?)
| gack...sputter...my modem is dying on me again...
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>"Peter Warren" <int### [at] halcyoncom> writes:
>> Javascript, eww. gross. Gag me with a spoon. *Whatever*
>
>Why is that? Check out www.php.net and tell me you don't like the popups
there.


Yes, I do like them and I have seen very neat things done with
Javascript. But I find it can be unreliable and quirky if not
used properly.

I'm not sure how I feel about the copywrite notice in the source.

Peter Warren
war### [at] hotmailcom

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RemCo

I was especially obnoxious yesterday.
This is what happens when I have my
ego stroked in a major (public) way.
Luckily this does not happen too often:)

I do have difficulty with your name for
some reason. I have done this (used
a K) before but caught myself.

later,
Peter

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Peter Warren wrote:
> 
> RemCo
> 
> I was especially obnoxious yesterday.
> This is what happens when I have my
> ego stroked in a major (public) way.
> Luckily this does not happen too often:)
> 
> I do have difficulty with your name for
> some reason. I have done this (used
> a K) before but caught myself.
> 
> later,
> Peter

That probably also explains why you didn't reply to my e-mail - which
isn't really relevant anymore ;)

Ciao!

Remco

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Bob Hughes wrote:
> 
> Try checking the stuff done by Hieronymus Bosch and you might not
> think that
> way: http://metalab.unc.edu/wm/paint/auth/bosch/
> I have a picture of The Temptation of St. Anthony and always been
> amazing to me
> that the guy was from 1500 A.D.  Many of the paintings remind me of
> 20th century
> stuff, such as Dali.

How about the other way around?

And have you ever stood in front of a Delacroix?
Shudders...

> 
> Bob

Remco

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Remco de Korte wrote in message <38917705.A0E9B07E@xs4all.nl>...

>That probably also explains why you didn't reply to my e-mail - which
>isn't really relevant anymore ;)
>
>Ciao!
>
>Remco

Absolutely not.
What e-mail? Where?
I can only imagine that it was sent to intgrls,
in which case my dear twin brother has not
forwarded it to me, yet.
Otherwise I am at a loss.
Please, if you care to, I would like to
move this to Povray.Ignorant.Me.

CiaoCiao

Peter
war### [at] hotmailcom

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>And have you ever stood in front of a Delacroix?
>Shudders...

In fact, no. Very visceral I imagine.
Even scary.

Peter

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Hi David,
I hope you are having a good morning.

                  PW_Lecture_101

    Hello, all. Before I begin I would hope that you
completed yesterdays assignment. I cannot stress enough
the importance of *really* bad Lee Majors pseudo-science
fiction movies on your local late show.

_/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/

David raises a good point with his reference to "that
old religious art."  My humble suggestion would be to
remove the word 'religious'. If, for instance, 500
years from now a 'human' was looking at a Fontaine
image and said "that old computer art" I (<ahem> my
clone) would surely take objection.

What does this leave us with?
"...that old art."
Let us narrow the discussion.
"old"
"It always shows people and
everything as flat and everything is flat..."
Narrow it even more.
"It always shows people..."

Forgiving my flawed logic...

Here it would be necessary to imagine a time before
the invention of photography where a recent/decent
painting (say one of Da Vince's obtuse works or one
of those Raphael's, as if he actually painted one, being
too busy...) was looked on as *almost* a
miracle.
Or image a time, only 50 or so years previous (1450)
that lifesize frescos were painted by Masters such
as Masaccio, or even that dolt Giotto.
Then you would have to imagine a time, earlier, where
humans actually believed in the 'truth' of images.
This, however, goes beyond the scope of this lecture.

As to "flat" I must admit to being clueless about this.
"Drab", ...not looking at the recently (and controversial)
restored Michelangelos.

Thank you all for attending today.

Peter Warren

Personal to David: Have they finished renovating that
park across the freeway from the Walker Art Center?
Man, all that construction when I visited really
harshed my mellow. A great city, nonetheless,
for sure.

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Remco de Korte wrote in message <38919B3C.B4D97213@xs4all.nl>...

>I must
>say it beats staring cross-eyed at a 15-inch screen when it comes to
>getting an impression of another (virtual) reality ;)

Probably better than a sterogram but I have great hopes
of these variously sized-screens.

>Sorry for the rambling.


No problamo over here.

Ramble on,

Peter

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On Fri, 28 Jan 2000 05:22:57 -0800, Peter Warren wrote:
>As to "flat" I must admit to being clueless about this.

Perspective came along fairly late in the game, so most "old" art
doesn't look right.  Da Vinci's "The Last Supper" 
(http://metalab.unc.edu/wm/paint/auth/vinci/lastsupp.jpg) for 
example, has zillions of vanishing points.  At least he tried to
establish depth, though.

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