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From: Noah A
Subject: evolution of the blast
Date: 20 Jan 2000 00:53:53
Message: <3886A32D.482602FB@powersurfr.com>
ok the last blender pic for a while i know it's p.b.i not blender.b.i
but the blender news server is html and kinda sucks hehe this is a
particle effect takes like 15 min to render cuz it has full motion blur
and that's damn fast for the birth of a star hehe :)


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From: Noah A
Subject: Re: evolution of the blast
Date: 20 Jan 2000 00:54:52
Message: <3886A36E.CFE36399@powersurfr.com>
there is an animation comming you wait and see!!!! i'll show you all!!!! (i
actualy hold no grudge it's just for effect)

Noah A wrote:

> ok the last blender pic for a while i know it's p.b.i not blender.b.i
> but the blender news server is html and kinda sucks hehe this is a
> particle effect takes like 15 min to render cuz it has full motion blur
> and that's damn fast for the birth of a star hehe :)
>
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>  [Image]


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From: TonyB
Subject: Re: evolution of the blast
Date: 20 Jan 2000 11:36:44
Message: <3887399c@news.povray.org>
MAXy...


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From: David Fontaine
Subject: Re: evolution of the blast
Date: 20 Jan 2000 20:31:31
Message: <3887B456.1A572956@faricy.net>
It's a nice pic, but... Why would it form a torus in outer space, shouldn't
everything be nice and spherical? Well I don't really know what I'm talking
about tho

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From: Noah A
Subject: Re: evolution of the blast
Date: 20 Jan 2000 21:40:59
Message: <3887C778.E565305E@powersurfr.com>
yer right in theory, however if the object was spinning it would form the disk
due to some nice physics

David Fontaine wrote:

> It's a nice pic, but... Why would it form a torus in outer space, shouldn't
> everything be nice and spherical? Well I don't really know what I'm talking
> about tho
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From: David Fontaine
Subject: Re: evolution of the blast
Date: 20 Jan 2000 21:54:04
Message: <3887C7B1.9790FEE9@faricy.net>
> yer right in theory, however if the object was spinning it would form the disk
> due to some nice physics

Yep. I forgot about the "coliding particle spin factor". But sci-fi explosions
should be spherical and they aren't! Hrmph!

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From: Ken
Subject: Re: evolution of the blast
Date: 20 Jan 2000 22:03:44
Message: <3887C8CB.61B92B4A@pacbell.net>
David Fontaine wrote:
> 
> > yer right in theory, however if the object was spinning it would form the disk
> > due to some nice physics
> 
> Yep. I forgot about the "coliding particle spin factor". But sci-fi explosions
> should be spherical and they aren't! Hrmph!

Why ? Assuming an object at rest with a uniform shell, and a way to ignite
the exploives it contained in a uniform manner perhaps it might appear as
a spherical blast. Given that the container may have different thicknesses
and the explosives my ignite non-unifomrly, and the whole container may
not be at rest, then it is safe to assume that you will not get a spherical
detonation.

It's all in the engineering - as a previous employeer of mine was fond of
saying.

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From: David Fontaine
Subject: Re: evolution of the blast
Date: 20 Jan 2000 23:56:51
Message: <3887E47B.BE646AFB@faricy.net>
> Why ? Assuming an object at rest with a uniform shell, and a way to ignite
> the exploives it contained in a uniform manner perhaps it might appear as
> a spherical blast. Given that the container may have different thicknesses
> and the explosives my ignite non-unifomrly, and the whole container may
> not be at rest, then it is safe to assume that you will not get a spherical
> detonation.

I see. Actually I worded that entirely wrong, I was thinking more along the lines of
Star Trek "collapsing stars". Those should be, right?

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From: Gail Shaw
Subject: Re: evolution of the blast
Date: 21 Jan 2000 02:57:08
Message: <38881154@news.povray.org>
David Fontaine wrote in message <3887E47B.BE646AFB@faricy.net>...
>> Why ? Assuming an object at rest with a uniform shell, and a way to
ignite
>> the exploives it contained in a uniform manner perhaps it might appear as
>> a spherical blast. Given that the container may have different
thicknesses
>> and the explosives my ignite non-unifomrly, and the whole container may
>> not be at rest, then it is safe to assume that you will not get a
spherical
>> detonation.
>
>I see. Actually I worded that entirely wrong, I was thinking more along the
lines of
>Star Trek "collapsing stars". Those should be, right?
>


Nope, stars spin (at different rates for different lattitudes) hence (due to
physics that I have forgotten) the explosion will not be uniform.

Think of ring nebulae caused by collapsing red giants.

Gail
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From: Cyrrin Endyrton
Subject: Re: evolution of the blast
Date: 21 Jan 2000 13:28:17
Message: <3888A48F.E8C03ABC@umich.edu>
It's always just unfortunate for those poor souls that they can never figure out
how to escape a toroidal explosion.  The best part of the Wing Commander movie was
due solely to my friend's comment whilst the heroine was desperately trying to
outrace the wavefront of a large explosion:
[groan] "Fly.....  up.    Up!"   "Obviously common sense isn't a requirement for
space fighter pilots."

 - Cyrrin


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