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From: Bob Hughes
Subject: Re: More and more B&W (or: gamma revisited)
Date: 18 Mar 1999 21:47:30
Message: <36F1BABF.985293AB@aol.com>
Maybe Lance just misses Kens challenging personality :) and wants to
continue with or without him.


Spider wrote:
> 
> Lance Birch wrote:
> > The problem you're all running into is with the coloured lights... They WILL
> > not convert, no matter what you do, because coloured lights cause the
> > diffuse and specular areas of objects to have different exposures.
> yeye, I've stated that sometime ago..
> 
> > The problem is not with gamma.
> I know, this was just a test to see what happened.
> 
> > Try this for me, place a shiny yellow sphere in a scene with a red light on
> > the left side, a green light at the camera and a blue light on the right
> > side.
> Isn't the green light I use enough? you see the lack of a shadow...
> 
> > Because of the coloured lights, you can't simulate the picture using the
> > "converted pigments" method.  The colour version when converted to greyscale
> > is nothing like the "converted pigments" version because the colour
> > version's lights affect the exposure of the surface of the sphere, where the
> > converted pigments method doesn't because all the lights are really just
> > intensities of white.
> Yes.
> 
> > See?
> no, I'm blind all of sudden :-)
> 
> --
> //Spider
>         [ spi### [at] bahnhofse ]-[ http://www.bahnhof.se/~spider/ ]
> What I can do and what I could do, I just don't know anymore
>                 "Marian"
>         By: "Sisters Of Mercy"

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From: Lance Birch
Subject: Re: More and more B&W (or: gamma revisited)
Date: 19 Mar 1999 04:04:47
Message: <36f2132f.0@news.povray.org>
Yep, that's the spirit!  ;-)

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From: Ken
Subject: Re: More and more B&W (or: gamma revisited)
Date: 19 Mar 1999 04:31:06
Message: <36F2187D.B4A73FC7@pacbell.net>
Lance Birch wrote:
> 
> Yep, that's the spirit!  ;-)
> 
> --
> Lance.
> 
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> The Zone - http://come.to/the.zone

 Spirit or no it doesn't matter. I was arguing for oranges and you were
on the side of apples. I decided rather than allowing myself to get sucked
into an arguement I did not want to have to win I gracefully shut my mouth
and let others pick up where I left off. I still stand by everything I said
and there ain't nothin you can say to change my mind. Why don't agree to
disagree on this and leave it at that.

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From: Spider
Subject: Re: More and more B&W (or: gamma revisited)
Date: 19 Mar 1999 09:30:31
Message: <36F25A9A.9F742346@bahnhof.se>
Ken wrote:
> 
> Lance Birch wrote:
> >
> > Yep, that's the spirit!  ;-)
> >
> 
>  Spirit or no it doesn't matter. I was arguing for oranges and you were
> on the side of apples. I decided rather than allowing myself to get sucked
> into an arguement I did not want to have to win I gracefully shut my mouth
> and let others pick up where I left off. I still stand by everything I said
> and there ain't nothin you can say to change my mind. Why don't agree to
> disagree on this and leave it at that.
 oww.. and ruin all the fun of a good argument? ok. :-)
Well, i'm in a good mood, don't flame me :-)

Did anyone have a adress/archive for a working pov 3.1d linux source? I'm
getting ready to install. I want a full conversion working soon :-)

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//Spider
        [ spi### [at] bahnhofse ]-[ http://www.bahnhof.se/~spider/ ]
What I can do and what I could do, I just don't know anymore
                "Marian"
        By: "Sisters Of Mercy"


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From: Ken
Subject: Re: More and more B&W (or: gamma revisited)
Date: 19 Mar 1999 10:06:10
Message: <36F266FF.20A78C4F@pacbell.net>
Spider wrote:
> 
> Ken wrote:
> >
> > Lance Birch wrote:
> > >
> > > Yep, that's the spirit!  ;-)
> > >
> >
> >  Spirit or no it doesn't matter. I was arguing for oranges and you were
> > on the side of apples. I decided rather than allowing myself to get sucked
> > into an arguement I did not want to have to win I gracefully shut my mouth
> > and let others pick up where I left off. I still stand by everything I said
> > and there ain't nothin you can say to change my mind. Why don't agree to
> > disagree on this and leave it at that.
>  oww.. and ruin all the fun of a good argument? ok. :-)
> Well, i'm in a good mood, don't flame me :-)
> 
> Did anyone have a adress/archive for a working pov 3.1d linux source? I'm
> getting ready to install. I want a full conversion working soon :-)
> 
> --
> //Spider
>         [ spi### [at] bahnhofse ]-[ http://www.bahnhof.se/~spider/ ]
> What I can do and what I could do, I just don't know anymore
>                 "Marian"
>         By: "Sisters Of Mercy"

 Do you really want to spend all of the time getting 3.1d compiled and then
have to turn around and recompile when 3.1e comes out in a short time ?

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From: Spider
Subject: Re: More and more B&W (or: gamma revisited)
Date: 20 Mar 1999 01:38:23
Message: <36F340B8.6B976E97@bahnhof.se>
already have 3.1e :-)


Ken wrote:
> 
> Spider wrote:
> >
> > Ken wrote:
> > >
> > > Lance Birch wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Yep, that's the spirit!  ;-)
> > > >
> > >
> > >  Spirit or no it doesn't matter. I was arguing for oranges and you were
> > > on the side of apples. I decided rather than allowing myself to get sucked
> > > into an arguement I did not want to have to win I gracefully shut my mouth
> > > and let others pick up where I left off. I still stand by everything I said
> > > and there ain't nothin you can say to change my mind. Why don't agree to
> > > disagree on this and leave it at that.
> >  oww.. and ruin all the fun of a good argument? ok. :-)
> > Well, i'm in a good mood, don't flame me :-)
> >
> > Did anyone have a adress/archive for a working pov 3.1d linux source? I'm
> > getting ready to install. I want a full conversion working soon :-)
> >
> > --
> > //Spider
> >         [ spi### [at] bahnhofse ]-[ http://www.bahnhof.se/~spider/ ]
> > What I can do and what I could do, I just don't know anymore
> >                 "Marian"
> >         By: "Sisters Of Mercy"
> 
>  Do you really want to spend all of the time getting 3.1d compiled and then
> have to turn around and recompile when 3.1e comes out in a short time ?
> 
> --
> Ken Tyler
> 
> mailto://tylereng@pacbell.net

-- 
//Spider
        [ spi### [at] bahnhofse ]-[ http://www.bahnhof.se/~spider/ ]
What I can do and what I could do, I just don't know anymore
                "Marian"
        By: "Sisters Of Mercy"


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From: Ken
Subject: Re: More and more B&W (or: gamma revisited)
Date: 20 Mar 1999 05:41:10
Message: <36F37A3A.1F5CFAF6@pacbell.net>
Spider wrote:
> 
> already have 3.1e :-)

Ok fine but that is not what you said in your post :)

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From: Spider
Subject: Re: More and more B&W (or: gamma revisited)
Date: 20 Mar 1999 13:15:25
Message: <36F3E417.5378543F@bahnhof.se>
nah, but when I posted the 3.1e was still in a distance.


Ken wrote:
> 
> Spider wrote:
> >
> > already have 3.1e :-)
> 
> Ok fine but that is not what you said in your post :)
> 
> --
> Ken Tyler
> 
> mailto://tylereng@pacbell.net

-- 
//Spider
        [ spi### [at] bahnhofse ]-[ http://www.bahnhof.se/~spider/ ]
What I can do and what I could do, I just don't know anymore
                "Marian"
        By: "Sisters Of Mercy"


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From: Lance Birch
Subject: Re: More and more B&W (or: gamma revisited)
Date: 21 Mar 1999 01:47:18
Message: <36f495f6.0@news.povray.org>
Fair enough :-)

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