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From: Ian Witham
Subject: Re: [OT] Re: moonbase
Date: 7 Sep 2000 21:51:19
Message: <39b84617@news.povray.org>
So that leaves three *more* movies?  Do you suppose they'll wait another 20
years before they make them?

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"David Fontaine" <dav### [at] faricynet> wrote in message
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> Paul Vanukoff wrote:
>
> > Actually, according to the prologue, the first Star Wars movie has
always
> > been titled "Episode IV: A New Hope." So really it was never retitled.
:)
>
> Yup, 'cuz they're based off a book series. AFAIK it goes up to nine...
>
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From: David Fontaine
Subject: Re: [OT] Re: moonbase
Date: 7 Sep 2000 23:21:46
Message: <39B85A1C.3C8C585F@faricy.net>
Ian Witham wrote:

> So that leaves three *more* movies?  Do you suppose they'll wait another 20
> years before they make them?

It's their marketing technique.

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From: Pete
Subject: Re: [OT] Re: moonbase
Date: 9 Sep 2000 11:11:55
Message: <1878.287T1075T6584100PeterC@nym.alias.net>
Paul Vanukoff wrote ... (regarding the titling of the first
Star Wars movie)

>Actually, according to the prologue, the first Star Wars movie has always
>been titled "Episode IV: A New Hope." So really it was never retitled. :)

--

        After reading your post, I decided to do a little research.
I couldn't refer to the actual movie, since my copy is the one with
all the 1990's computer effects added to the original 1977 film.
Then I remembered that I had a book published in 1979 (The Art of
Star Wars) which has the complete text of the script for the movie.
The book was published before all the enhancements and before the
next two movies were filmed.  So the book is old enough to be
used as a reliable reference.
        The first five lines of the title page of the script says:

 Star Wars
 Episode IV
 A New Hope
 from the
 Journal of the Wills
 by George Lucas

        Wow!
        Interesting, and not what I had remembered.  This supports
the idea that Lucas had intended from the beginning to make it a
multi-part series.  He didn't just shoot off one movie and then
decide to "invent" prequall movies after seeing the profits of the
first movie.
        But I still don't know that the original release of the
movie actually printed "episode IV" in the beginning scrolly
text intro.  I'de love to find a shot of the opening title from the
"original" (1977) release of the movie.
        And I wonder what the Journal of the Wills could be?

        Err, umm, getting back on topic ... or at least to
something remotely pov-ish ...
 ...
        In The Star Wars Sketchbook, I read that the surface
details of the Death Star (except for those towers with the gun
turrets on them) were assembled from multiple copies of only
six shapes.  Sounds like a process that could be POV-able, eh?
Six meshes, tiled using macros and some rand() calls ... kewel.


Pete


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From: Steven Marshall
Subject: Re: [OT] Re: moonbase
Date: 20 Dec 2000 23:00:34
Message: <3A418038.D8F23380@alum.mit.edu>
Yes the original release certainly did start with "Episode IV: A New Hope". I
can clearly remember the audience reaction, "huh? episode 4? what the heck?".
And then the interviews with Lucas talking about the starting with the middle
trilogy since it was the most interesting one.

Steve M.

Pete wrote:

> Paul Vanukoff wrote ... (regarding the titling of the first
> Star Wars movie)
>
> >Actually, according to the prologue, the first Star Wars movie has always
> >been titled "Episode IV: A New Hope." So really it was never retitled. :)
>
> --
>
>         After reading your post, I decided to do a little research.
> I couldn't refer to the actual movie, since my copy is the one with
> all the 1990's computer effects added to the original 1977 film.
> Then I remembered that I had a book published in 1979 (The Art of
> Star Wars) which has the complete text of the script for the movie.
> The book was published before all the enhancements and before the
> next two movies were filmed.  So the book is old enough to be
> used as a reliable reference.
>         The first five lines of the title page of the script says:
>
>  Star Wars
>  Episode IV
>  A New Hope
>  from the
>  Journal of the Wills
>  by George Lucas
>
>         Wow!
>         Interesting, and not what I had remembered.  This supports
> the idea that Lucas had intended from the beginning to make it a
> multi-part series.  He didn't just shoot off one movie and then
> decide to "invent" prequall movies after seeing the profits of the
> first movie.
>         But I still don't know that the original release of the
> movie actually printed "episode IV" in the beginning scrolly
> text intro.  I'de love to find a shot of the opening title from the
> "original" (1977) release of the movie.
>         And I wonder what the Journal of the Wills could be?
>
>         Err, umm, getting back on topic ... or at least to
> something remotely pov-ish ...
>  ...
>         In The Star Wars Sketchbook, I read that the surface
> details of the Death Star (except for those towers with the gun
> turrets on them) were assembled from multiple copies of only
> six shapes.  Sounds like a process that could be POV-able, eh?
> Six meshes, tiled using macros and some rand() calls ... kewel.
>
> Pete


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From: Bill DeWitt
Subject: Re: [OT] Re: moonbase
Date: 21 Dec 2000 00:22:50
Message: <3a4193aa$1@news.povray.org>
"Steven Marshall" <sma### [at] alummitedu> wrote in message
news:3A418038.D8F23380@alum.mit.edu...
> Yes the original release certainly did start with "Episode IV: A New
Hope". I
> can clearly remember the audience reaction, "huh? episode 4? what the
heck?".


    I spent a lot of time back then telling folk that there would be a total
of 12, three previous and eight after.


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From: Ken Matassa
Subject: Re: [OT] Re: moonbase
Date: 25 Dec 2000 14:06:53
Message: <3A47A7EC.491A@pacbell.net>
Bill DeWitt wrote:
> 
> "Steven Marshall" <sma### [at] alummitedu> wrote in message
> news:3A418038.D8F23380@alum.mit.edu...
> > Yes the original release certainly did start with "Episode IV: A New
> Hope". I
> > can clearly remember the audience reaction, "huh? episode 4? what the
> heck?".


Ah, then you did'nt see the original release of Star Wars. I saw it
opening night. The scrolling text did NOT start with :Episode IV: A New
Hope". That was added for the re-release the following summer.

Ken Matassa


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From: Bill DeWitt
Subject: Re: [OT] Re: moonbase
Date: 25 Dec 2000 14:15:43
Message: <3a479cdf$1@news.povray.org>
"Ken Matassa" <kma### [at] pacbellnet> wrote :
>
> Ah, then you did'nt see the original release of Star Wars. I saw it
> opening night. The scrolling text did NOT start with :Episode IV: A New
> Hope". That was added for the re-release the following summer.

    I -never- see a movie when it first comes out. I hate crowds, lines,
jabbering and the smell of mobs.


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From: Pete
Subject: Re: [OT] Re: moonbase
Date: 25 Dec 2000 20:45:37
Message: <846.394T1587T12374580PeterC@nym.alias.net>
Ken Matassa wrote:

>Bill DeWitt wrote:
>>
>> "Steven Marshall" <sma### [at] alummitedu> wrote in message
>> news:3A418038.D8F23380@alum.mit.edu...
>> > Yes the original release certainly did start with "Episode IV: A New
>> Hope". I
>> > can clearly remember the audience reaction, "huh? episode 4? what the
>> heck?".


>Ah, then you did'nt see the original release of Star Wars. I saw it
>opening night. The scrolling text did NOT start with :Episode IV: A New
>Hope". That was added for the re-release the following summer.

>Ken Matassa

Ken: thanks for backing me up.  So often it seems I am the only
one to notice when things get edited or changed, then everyone else
thinks that things were always the way they are.  Heck, before your
posting I was wondering if I had been slipped sideways into an
alternate universe or something.


Pete


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From: Bill DeWitt
Subject: Re: [OT] Re: moonbase
Date: 26 Dec 2000 08:02:28
Message: <3a4896e4$1@news.povray.org>
"Pete" <Pet### [at] nymaliasnet> wrote :
>
> >Ah, then you did'nt see the original release of Star Wars. I saw it
> >opening night. The scrolling text did NOT start with :Episode IV: A New
> >Hope". That was added for the re-release the following summer.
>
> >Ken Matassa
>
> Ken: thanks for backing me up.

    Actually, re-reading Ken's post in your reply, I noticed the "summer"
that I must have missed before. I don't remember the season that I saw it
in, but I saw it only a week or two after I first heard of it being shown.

    Maybe different versions got released in different places? Because I
certainly remember talking about the "IV" on the way out of the theatre.


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From: Bob H 
Subject: Re: [OT] Re: moonbase
Date: 26 Dec 2000 20:27:44
Message: <3a494590@news.povray.org>
I saw it in a downtown Seattle WA theatre and had always thought it did say
Episode IV.  Not that my memory is good enough to recall that correctly.
Jackets were worn but it was night time and summer in the NW was never long or
too warm at night.  And I do remember waiting in a line that wrapped around the
block, ended up close to the front for the segment I got in with.  Only other
movie I went to that was like that was the first Batman one in Huntsville AL
but I'm not one to try and see first run films either.

Bob H.

"Bill DeWitt" <bde### [at] cflrrcom> wrote in message
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>
>     Maybe different versions got released in different places? Because I
> certainly remember talking about the "IV" on the way out of the theatre.


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