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From: ARTis
Subject: Re: Elastolab Physics Test 1
Date: 14 Nov 2001 16:50:17
Message: <3bf2e719@news.povray.org>
> Hi,
>
> Here's my first test of using Elastolab to output POV spline data. It was
> quite a job to construct the environment from polygons and spline data,
but
> worth the effort I feel.
>
> Any comments welcome.

Nice scene -- does it uses radiosity?


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From: Andrew Cocker
Subject: Re: Elastolab Physics Test 1
Date: 14 Nov 2001 19:00:16
Message: <3bf30590@news.povray.org>
"ARTis" <art### [at] aaaapollolv> wrote in message
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>
> Nice scene -- does it uses radiosity?
>
Thanks. Yes, it does use radiosity.

Andy Cocker


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From: blessing
Subject: Re: Elastolab Physics Test 1
Date: 14 Nov 2001 21:50:44
Message: <3bf32d84@news.povray.org>
OMG! love the bouncy thing in the middle.

G

Andrew Cocker <big### [at] mariner9fsnetcouk> wrote in message
news:3bf2704d@news.povray.org...
> Hi,
>
> Here's my first test of using Elastolab to output POV spline data. It was
> quite a job to construct the environment from polygons and spline data,
but
> worth the effort I feel.
>
> Any comments welcome.
>
> All the best,
>
> Andy Cocker
>
>
>


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From: Nekar Xenos
Subject: Re: Elastolab Physics Test 1
Date: 15 Nov 2001 00:56:01
Message: <3bf358f1@news.povray.org>
Nice.
IIRC Elastolab only does 2d physics. Is that correct? If it does 3d physics, I
have another Q: is it free and where can I get it?

-Nekar

"Andrew Cocker" <big### [at] mariner9fsnetcouk> wrote in message
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> Hi,
>
> Here's my first test of using Elastolab to output POV spline data. It was
> quite a job to construct the environment from polygons and spline data, but
> worth the effort I feel.
>
> Any comments welcome.
>
> All the best,
>
> Andy Cocker
>
>
>


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From: Andrew Cocker
Subject: Re: Elastolab Physics Test 1
Date: 15 Nov 2001 04:51:10
Message: <3bf3900e@news.povray.org>
"Nekar Xenos" <j-p### [at] citywalkcoza> wrote in message
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> Nice.

Thanks.

> IIRC Elastolab only does 2d physics. Is that correct? If it does 3d
physics, I
> have another Q: is it free and where can I get it?

Only 2D I'm afraid. :-(

All the best,

Andy Cocker


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From: Andrew Cocker
Subject: Re: Elastolab Physics Test 1
Date: 15 Nov 2001 04:51:36
Message: <3bf39028$1@news.povray.org>
"blessing" <ble### [at] icefognet> wrote in message
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> OMG! love the bouncy thing in the middle.

Me too ;-)

All the best,

Andy Cocker


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From: David Buck
Subject: Re: Elastolab Physics Test 1
Date: 15 Nov 2001 07:12:09
Message: <3BF3B16A.E9C1CC12@simberon.com>
Nekar Xenos wrote:

> Nice.
> IIRC Elastolab only does 2d physics. Is that correct? If it does 3d physics, I
> have another Q: is it free and where can I get it?
>
> -Nekar

It's 2D physics because it's aimed at a different market.  It's intended to be a
kids application (age 9 and up) to let them play in a world with simulated
physics.  2D is much easier to deal with in that environment.

If there's enough interest and the market is large enough, I may consider a 3D
version.  So far, sales are slow  because I'm not promoting it much yet.  After I
get more sales, I'll decide on a strategic direction for future versions based on
interest from the user base.

You can get it from www.simberon.com.

David Buck
Simberon Inc.


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From: JRG
Subject: Re: Elastolab Physics Test 1
Date: 15 Nov 2001 17:31:06
Message: <3bf4422a@news.povray.org>
Nice. It reminds me of an old game by Sierra (wasn't it The Incredible
Machine or something like that?...)

--
Jonathan.

"Andrew Cocker" <big### [at] mariner9fsnetcouk> ha scritto nel messaggio
news:3bf2704d@news.povray.org...
> Hi,
>
> Here's my first test of using Elastolab to output POV spline data. It was
> quite a job to construct the environment from polygons and spline data,
but
> worth the effort I feel.
>
> Any comments welcome.
>
> All the best,
>
> Andy Cocker
>
>
>


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From: Greg M  Johnson
Subject: Re: Elastolab Physics Test 1
Date: 16 Nov 2001 08:39:39
Message: <3BF516A4.8CBAC2F8@aol.com>
Amazing.  I have been unable to "do the physics of" a ball that is BOTH able to
bounce AND does not fall through the floor when it comes to rest.  I probably
end up with a particle whose surface is say 1E-7 from the floor but is
plummeting toward the ground at 1E-5, or something like that.

Andrew Cocker wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Here's my first test of using Elastolab to output POV spline data. It was
> quite a job to construct the environment from polygons and spline data, but
> worth the effort I feel.
>
> Any comments welcome.
>
> All the best,
>
> Andy Cocker
>
>                           Name: Elastolab_Test1.mpg
>    Elastolab_Test1.mpg    Type: Wmplayer File (video/mpg)
>                       Encoding: x-uuencode


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From: David Buck
Subject: Re: Elastolab Physics Test 1
Date: 16 Nov 2001 13:06:13
Message: <3BF555E6.AFAFAC57@simberon.com>
"Greg M. Johnson" wrote:

> Amazing.  I have been unable to "do the physics of" a ball that is BOTH able to
> bounce AND does not fall through the floor when it comes to rest.  I probably
> end up with a particle whose surface is say 1E-7 from the floor but is
> plummeting toward the ground at 1E-5, or something like that.

The secret is to detect resting contact and switch modes to Dynamic Constraints.
Dynamic constraints calculate the forces required to nullify the normal
acceleration of a particle in order to avoid breaking constraints like falling
through the floor.  Once resting contact has been determined, the system calculates
the acceleration of the particle then calculates the force necessary to prevent the
particle from falling through the floor.  It applies the force, then calculates the
physics.

For all the gory details, check out:

http://www-2.cs.cmu.edu/afs/cs/user/baraff/www/pbm/pbm.html

David Buck
Simberon Inc
www.simberon.com


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