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From: Bill DeWitt
Subject: Re: HF seeded with flowers in a vain way [~900KB Mpg]
Date: 12 May 2001 09:35:51
Message: <3afd3c37@news.povray.org>
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"Bob H." <omn### [at] msn com> wrote :
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> I was thinking about not using the image mapped to the HF so that the
> flowers do all the work, haven't tried it yet.
Yeah, I would really do this if I were you (and had the patience to work
it out). Have the green flowers grow out of grass then back out in time to
see them bloom into her picture.
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From: Rick [Kitty5]
Subject: Re: HF seeded with flowers in a vain way [~900KB Mpg]
Date: 12 May 2001 10:38:12
Message: <3afd4ad4@news.povray.org>
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I would suggest many many smaller flowers that perhaps curve upwards a
little more, and perhaps with out the HF below the flower being visible -
only on the petals
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From: Tony[B]
Subject: Re: HF seeded with flowers in a vain way [~900KB Mpg]
Date: 12 May 2001 17:09:08
Message: <3afda674@news.povray.org>
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Spooky-cool. :)
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"Rick [Kitty5]" <ric### [at] kitty5com> wrote in message
news:3afd4ad4@news.povray.org...
> I would suggest many many smaller flowers that perhaps curve upwards a
> little more, and perhaps with out the HF below the flower being visible -
> only on the petals
How about a picture of someone else too? For now I'm using a sample photo
from some scanner software.
File size is over the limit for here, being 860KB, so it is at:
http://webpages.charter.net/omniverse/flwrgirltrace.mpg
The flowers start out as buds, although so small that might not be obvious,
then they flatten out. Needs stems added, and more height variation too
except shadows are a problem.
Bob H.
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From: Christoph Hormann
Subject: Re: HF seeded with flowers again, file on web
Date: 13 May 2001 04:32:30
Message: <3AFE46E8.EF7B47CE@gmx.de>
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"Bob H." wrote:
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> How about a picture of someone else too? For now I'm using a sample photo
> from some scanner software.
How about varying the style of the flower according to the picture too.
You could also try making the flowers a 'wave' moving across the picture.
Christoph
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IsoWood include, radiosity tutorial, TransSkin and other
things on: http://www.schunter.etc.tu-bs.de/~chris/
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"Christoph Hormann" <chr### [at] gmxde> wrote in message
news:3AFE46E8.EF7B47CE@gmx.de...
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> How about varying the style of the flower according to the picture too.
> You could also try making the flowers a 'wave' moving across the picture.
That would be good, yes, if I can work with eval_pigment okay anyhow. I
started thinking about rotating the flowers around toward the light, moving
it around instead of the moving the camera, but I'd be going off on a
tangent from what I intended to start with.
I keep forgetting to how the midway point has a glitch of scale change or
camera shift or something. Haven't tracked it down yet, the flowers stop
being placed at >0.5 (clock halfway point) or rather are placed from 0 to
<=0.5.
Wasn't concerned with that before so much but now I'm not sure what's
causing it.
Bob H.
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This looks nice. If I could make a couple of suggestions they would be:
- Try it without the large scale motion of the plane (or the camera,
whichever you are doing). I find this a bit headache-inducing and it also
masks any subtleties in the flower arrangement or motion. Also your movie
size may be reduced if you keep the camera/plane relatively still... and
this would imply more frames and more detail within the same file size.
- Play with the flowers a bit more. Try the other suggestions concerning
waves, height, timing, etc. I like what you have done with the green
background and the bright petals, but you can keep going.
- For bonus points you might be able to figure out how to alternate between
two images. If a wind were to flip over each petal in turn and reveal a
different picture on the underside you would have the basis for looping your
movie. Or maybe I am just getting carried away here :-)
Anyway it looks great so far. Looking forward to the evolution.
"Bob H." <omn### [at] msncom> wrote in message
news:3afdbe9a@news.povray.org...
> "Rick [Kitty5]" <ric### [at] kitty5com> wrote in message
> news:3afd4ad4@news.povray.org...
> > I would suggest many many smaller flowers that perhaps curve upwards a
> > little more, and perhaps with out the HF below the flower being
visible -
> > only on the petals
>
> How about a picture of someone else too? For now I'm using a sample photo
> from some scanner software.
>
> File size is over the limit for here, being 860KB, so it is at:
> http://webpages.charter.net/omniverse/flwrgirltrace.mpg
>
> The flowers start out as buds, although so small that might not be
obvious,
> then they flatten out. Needs stems added, and more height variation too
> except shadows are a problem.
>
> Bob H.
>
>
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50% of the flowers with one image and 50% with another, opening in an
alternating sequence...
Yes, I am definitely getting carried away. Sorry.
"Spock" <spo### [at] nospamcom> wrote in message
news:3afe8da5$1@news.povray.org...
> - For bonus points you might be able to figure out how to alternate
between
> two images. If a wind were to flip over each petal in turn and reveal a
> different picture on the underside you would have the basis for looping
your
> movie. Or maybe I am just getting carried away here :-)
>
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From: Dennis Milller
Subject: Re: HF seeded with flowers in a vain way [~900KB Mpg]
Date: 21 May 2001 21:41:00
Message: <3b09c3ac$1@news.povray.org>
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May I see the code for this? I'm curious about the mapping technique.
Thanks much
D.
"Bob H." <omn### [at] msncom> wrote in message
news:3afd2952@news.povray.org...
> Seeded because it's using random numbers, vain because it uses a photo of
> me.
> Not something a person should render over and over again too much, a
picture
> of themselves. Gets a little strange.
>
> I was wanting to try what I have seen in a television commercial where
> flowers bloom out and form the picture. Used MegaPov 'trace' to find the
> positions, not hf_height_at, hoping to do more with that I hope. I have a
> long way to go before I get there. Figured I'd make a animation of one of
> my nieces when I find a good photograph of her.
>
> Well, have a look if you will please, just don't loop it for too long.
:-)
>
> Bob H.
> --
> http://webpages.charter.net/omniverse/omniverse.htm
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>
>
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From: Bob H
Subject: Re: HF seeded with flowers in a vain way [~900KB Mpg]
Date: 21 May 2001 23:43:06
Message: <3b09e04a@news.povray.org>
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"Dennis Milller" <dhm### [at] mediaonenet> wrote in message
news:3b09c3ac$1@news.povray.org...
> May I see the code for this? I'm curious about the mapping technique.
I used the MegaPov 'pattern' keyword in the height field to make it from the
image. It was from a previous scene for making a quick and easy HF which I
then replaced the color_map with image_map just to see if it would work
okay. Hadn't done so before this and was a little surprised it did.
Since it might be of interest to more people I'll put it at p.t.s-f. group,
not that it is anything spectacular but overall might be a scene file of
some use.
Bob H.
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