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From: Ben Chambers
Subject: Re: Is the "File Open" dialog box missing a few file types?
Date: 17 Sep 2001 10:13:33
Message: <3ba6050d@news.povray.org>
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"Peter Popov" <pet### [at] vip bg> wrote in message
news:ac4bqt0kdegoa3fjparqn2il29p3vlcd20@4ax.com...
> On Mon, 17 Sep 2001 11:37:24 +1000, "Chris Cason"
> <newsadmin@-despam-povray.org> wrote:
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> >I would have te be convinced that a large number of users are editing
> >files using the other extensions before I added them.
>
> Regrettably, RL will probably limit my near future usage of POV to
> confirming bugs, maybe finding a few incidentally, and answering
> TAG-related questions. OTOH, RL will hopefully include a lot of
> writing of HTML, CSS, XML and javaScript and I am yet to find a better
> Windows editor than POV (save Vim, but most of its advanced features
> don't help much for HTML edit ting, so...)
You only need to open the file once, and then it's on the "recent files"
list.
...Chambers
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From: Rune
Subject: Re: Is the "File Open" dialog box missing a few file types?
Date: 17 Sep 2001 15:18:06
Message: <3ba64c6e@news.povray.org>
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"Chris Cason" wrote:
> I've already added .mcr since I believe it is
> becoming fairly common.
Sorry, but I think this is perhaps not such a good idea.
If it is added there should be a definition of what it means; some kind of
standardization. What if a file has both macros and other things, should it
then be an .inc or a .mcr ? And should .mcr mean one macro only, or could it
also contain several?
The truth is that it's very difficult to make any meaningful standardization
of this that is also useful. Users can never be sure that .inc files won't
contain macros, and neither that .mcr files will be strictly macros only, so
in reality there'll be no added benefit of supporting this extension.
Furthermore none of the official files have the .mcr extension, and that of
course is strange if the format is really officially supported. We could
change the extensions of some of the official files, but I for one wouldn't
know which (because of the beforementioned issues).
I think that all the new extension really does is to clutter up the
extensions, force users to memorize yet another one, cause confusion and so
on. Ask yourself if there's any real reason to add it.
Rune
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On Mon, 17 Sep 2001 09:57:52 -0400, Glen Berry <7no### [at] ezwvcom>
wrote:
>Yeah, I was kind of looking forward to seeing a few POV-Ray websites
>that bragged about actually being written with POV-Ray itself.
Dunno about POV websites, but I can point you to about a dozen I've
done that have a meta generator tag that says "POV-Ray for Windows
v3.1g" :)
That is, unless my boss has decided to underline a word and opened the
thing in that crappy FP thing he uses.
Peter Popov ICQ : 15002700
Personal e-mail : pet### [at] vipbg
TAG e-mail : pet### [at] tagpovrayorg
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From: Bob H
Subject: Re: Is the "File Open" dialog box missing a few file types?
Date: 17 Sep 2001 19:35:45
Message: <3ba688d1$1@news.povray.org>
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"Rune" <run### [at] mobilixnetdk> wrote in message
news:3ba64c6e@news.povray.org...
> "Chris Cason" wrote:
> > I've already added .mcr since I believe it is
> > becoming fairly common.
>
> Sorry, but I think this is perhaps not such a good idea.
>
> If it is added there should be a definition of what it means; some kind of
> standardization. What if a file has both macros and other things, should
it
> then be an .inc or a .mcr ? And should .mcr mean one macro only, or could
it
> also contain several?
---snip---
Yet another extension for functions, .fun, could be feasible too. But
seriously, I have to say that organization is paramount and if mcr helps in
that regard I'm all for it. It's up to the end user to judge what goes in a
certain file type.
I probably shouldn't have mentioned a extension for designating function
calls or whatever. It sounds feasible to me after saying that.
Bob H.
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Rune wrote:
I disagree with everything you said. I lobbied for that extention addition
and am very happy Chris added it.
--
Ken Tyler - POV-Ray Technical Assistance Group
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From: Thorsten Froehlich
Subject: Re: Is the "File Open" dialog box missing a few file types?
Date: 18 Sep 2001 12:13:08
Message: <3ba77294@news.povray.org>
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In article <3BA6A5BB.7D79EE60@pacbell.net> , Ken <tyl### [at] pacbellnet>
wrote:
> Rune wrote:
>
> I disagree with everything you said. I lobbied for that extention addition
> and am very happy Chris added it.
I completely agree with Rune, but as extensions don't matter on Macs...
Thorsten
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e-mail: tho### [at] trfde
Visit POV-Ray on the web: http://mac.povray.org
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From: Rune
Subject: Re: Is the "File Open" dialog box missing a few file types?
Date: 18 Sep 2001 14:33:18
Message: <3ba7936e@news.povray.org>
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"Ken" wrote:
> I disagree with everything you said. I lobbied for that
> extention addition and am very happy Chris added it.
And what is your answers to the questions I raised?
Rune
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Thorsten Froehlich wrote:
> I completely agree with Rune, but as extensions don't matter on Macs...
Or...
Used to not matter.
Looks like Apple is trying to force a transition to them.
--
Jon A. Cruz (former Sergeant, U.S. Army)
"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." - Benjamin Franklin
http://www.forbes.com/2001/09/17/0917lie.html
http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=01/09/16/1647231&mode=thread
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From: Jon A Cruz
Subject: Re: Is the "File Open" dialog box missing a few file types?
Date: 22 Sep 2001 19:50:17
Message: <3BAD2343.1E043F5B@yahoo.com>
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"Jon A. Cruz" wrote:
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> Used to not matter.
>
> Looks like Apple is trying to force a transition to them.
Oh, in case others hadn't heard:
http://arstechnica.com/reviews/01q3/metadata/metadata-1.html
--
Jon A. Cruz (former Sergeant, U.S. Army)
"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." - Benjamin Franklin
http://www.forbes.com/2001/09/17/0917lie.html
http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=01/09/16/1647231&mode=thread
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From: Thorsten Froehlich
Subject: Re: Is the "File Open" dialog box missing a few file types?
Date: 23 Sep 2001 13:00:25
Message: <3bae1529@news.povray.org>
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In article <3BAD2343.1E043F5B@yahoo.com> , "Jon A. Cruz" <jon### [at] yahoocom>
wrote:
>> Looks like Apple is trying to force a transition to them.
>
> Oh, in case others hadn't heard:
>
> http://arstechnica.com/reviews/01q3/metadata/metadata-1.html
No, they will take most of this nonsense back in Mac OS 10.1 after massive
complaints from everybody. I guess when version 11 is reached this shit
will be complely gone again. Right now it is part of the NextStep legacy
code still in the mid-level of the OS...
Thorsten
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e-mail: tho### [at] trfde
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