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From: Thorsten Froehlich
Subject: Re: nice.... (3.7)
Date: 28 Apr 2005 15:50:16
Message: <42713e78$1@news.povray.org>
Slime wrote:
>>http://www.trustedreview.com/article.aspx?page=2900&head=60
> 
> More than 10x speed increase with just four processors? Crazy!

Well, the POV-Team has repeatedly and very clearly stated that one cannot 
compare the benchmark results between different versions of POV-Ray.  And 
certainly a beta version with plenty of bugs cannot be compared to an older 
final version of POV-Ray.  As such, the comparison about POV-Ray 3.6 release 
and POV-Ray 3.7 beta says absolutely nothing about the speed increase.

	Thorsten

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From: Tim Cook
Subject: Re: nice.... (3.7)
Date: 28 Apr 2005 20:25:16
Message: <42717eec@news.povray.org>
Thorsten Froehlich wrote:
> Well, the POV-Team has repeatedly and very clearly stated that one 
> cannot compare the benchmark results between different versions of 
> POV-Ray.  And certainly a beta version with plenty of bugs cannot be 
> compared to an older final version of POV-Ray.  As such, the comparison 
> about POV-Ray 3.6 release and POV-Ray 3.7 beta says absolutely nothing 
> about the speed increase.

It might not say anything about what the software is doing, let alone 
that it has the same speed increase for every image, but it *does* say 
that the image in question *was* created in 1/10th the time.  That's 
saying absolutely something about the speed increase in one specific 
case.  Which is still impressive.  ;)

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From: Thorsten Froehlich
Subject: Re: nice.... (3.7)
Date: 28 Apr 2005 21:03:08
Message: <427187cc$1@news.povray.org>
Tim Cook wrote:
> Thorsten Froehlich wrote:
> 
>> Well, the POV-Team has repeatedly and very clearly stated that one 
>> cannot compare the benchmark results between different versions of 
>> POV-Ray.  And certainly a beta version with plenty of bugs cannot be 
>> compared to an older final version of POV-Ray.  As such, the 
>> comparison about POV-Ray 3.6 release and POV-Ray 3.7 beta says 
>> absolutely nothing about the speed increase.
> 
> 
> It might not say anything about what the software is doing, let alone 
> that it has the same speed increase for every image, but it *does* say 
> that the image in question *was* created in 1/10th the time.  That's 
> saying absolutely something about the speed increase in one specific 
> case.  Which is still impressive.  ;)

You missed my point: The image created is not identical due to the mentioned 
bugs, and some features are disabled.  Hence, the results of comparing 3.6 
release with 3.7 beta just have *no* validity whatsoever.

And believe me, I know very well what the real speed of POV-Ray 3.7 compared 
to 3.6 currently is.  The benchmark is still 10% slower than rendered 3.6 
(and that compares the Visual C builds), and there is no magic in there for 
the multiprocessor case - you get four times the speed of a single threaded 
render, not more.

	Thorsten


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From: Invisible
Subject: Re: nice.... (3.7)
Date: 29 Apr 2005 05:11:11
Message: <4271fa2f$1@news.povray.org>
> You missed my point: The image created is not identical due to the 
> mentioned bugs, and some features are disabled.  Hence, the results of 
> comparing 3.6 release with 3.7 beta just have *no* validity whatsoever.

Meh. Even *I* can create a program that will draw a picture faster than 
POV-Ray. Sure, the resulting image won't actually be the same, but it'll 
be faster... ;-)


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