> Coridon Henshaw <che### [at] sympaticoca> wrote:
> : Pretty much by definition any app which creates windows ceases to be a
> : console mode app.
>
>   Not true.
>   For example a program could be used from the console, it could read
> commands and execute them, etc, and it could open windows for example for
> drawing a graph (matlab works this way in X).

a console app ceases to be a console app when it cannot be run in a console
only environment


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On Sun, 25 Nov 2001 00:19:17 -0000, Rick [Kitty5] wrote:
>> Coridon Henshaw <che### [at] sympaticoca> wrote:
>> : Pretty much by definition any app which creates windows ceases to be a
>> : console mode app.
>>
>>   Not true.
>>   For example a program could be used from the console, it could read
>> commands and execute them, etc, and it could open windows for example for
>> drawing a graph (matlab works this way in X).
> 
> a console app ceases to be a console app when it cannot be run in a console
> only environment

Then there's no such thing as a console app under NT, since there's no such
thing as a "console only environment" in NT.  This is clearly not a usable 
definition.

The truth is, there's a specific definition of what constitutes a "console mode
app" in Windows, and it is absolutely true that an app can meet that definition
and still create windows and draw to the screen.  Most don't, but there's no
reason they couldn't if they wanted to.

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mod(P,100)),#local P=P/100;#end"")#end background{rgb 1}text{ttf L(R.x)L(R.y)0,0
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On 24 Nov 2001 18:17:58 -0500, Coridon Henshaw wrote:
> Again, are you asserting that it is illegal to port Povray to a text-based 
> platform?  (y/n)

Of course nobody's asserting that.  Equally of course, that won't stop you 
from making an ass out of yourself trying to show how horrible everyone 
associated with the production of POV-Ray is just because you're not allowed
to use the code for whatever you want.

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-z-z-z a+z)torus{1F clipped_by{plane{a 0}}}translate V}#end#macro Z(a F T)merge{
P(z+a)P(z-a)R(-z-z-x a)pigment{rgbf 1}hollow interior{media{emission 3-T}}}#end 
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Peter Popov <pet### [at] vipbg> wrote in
news:jfb00u4u5qitght0p4vqmug65bjo00r72b@4ax.com: 

> On 24 Nov 2001 18:17:58 -0500, che### [at] sympaticoca (Coridon Henshaw)
> wrote:

>>Again, are you asserting that it is illegal to port Povray to a
>>text-based platform?
 
> It is not, as long as a) the full copyright message is displayed b) it
> is clearly stated that it is an unofficial version and the POV Team is
> not responsible for this version and c) you take the burden of
> supporting it.

I know that's what Povlegal says.  I'm merely wondering why Warp expressed 
an opinion that a Win32 console port would be illegal.

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Coridon Henshaw <che### [at] sympaticoca> wrote:
: I know that's what Povlegal says.  I'm merely wondering why Warp expressed 
: an opinion that a Win32 console port would be illegal.

  I may be suffering of early dementia, as I have absolutely no memory about
saying anything like that.

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#macro N(D,I)#if(I<6)cylinder{M()#local D[I]=div(D[I],104);M().5,2pigment{
rgb M()}}N(D,(D[I]>99?I:I+1))#end#end#macro M()<mod(D[I],13)-6,mod(div(D[I
],13),8)-3,10>#end blob{N(array[6]{11117333955,
7382340,3358,3900569407,970,4254934330},0)}//                     - Warp -

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You're right, rendrib (BMRT) does it too (and it's obviously a console app).

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"Warp" <war### [at] tagpovrayorg> ha scritto nel messaggio
news:3c003373@news.povray.org...
> Coridon Henshaw <che### [at] sympaticoca> wrote:
> : Pretty much by definition any app which creates windows ceases to be a
> : console mode app.
>
>   Not true.
>   For example a program could be used from the console, it could read
> commands and execute them, etc, and it could open windows for example for
> drawing a graph (matlab works this way in X).
>
> --
> #macro N(D,I)#if(I<6)cylinder{M()#local D[I]=div(D[I],104);M().5,2pigment{
> rgb M()}}N(D,(D[I]>99?I:I+1))#end#end#macro M()<mod(D[I],13)-6,mod(div(D[I
> ],13),8)-3,10>#end blob{N(array[6]{11117333955,
> 7382340,3358,3900569407,970,4254934330},0)}//                     - Warp -

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On 25 Nov 2001 01:56:49 -0500, che### [at] sympaticoca (Coridon Henshaw)
wrote:

>I know that's what Povlegal says.  I'm merely wondering why Warp expressed 
>an opinion that a Win32 console port would be illegal.

Well, everything's ok then. I just had to mention it sa most people
don't care to read the document as thoroughly as needed.


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TAG      e-mail : pet### [at] tagpovrayorg

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On 25 Nov 2001 00:57:59 -0500, Ron Parker <ron### [at] povrayorg>
wrote:

>Of course nobody's asserting that.  Equally of course, that won't stop you 
>from making an ass out of yourself trying to show how horrible everyone 
>associated with the production of POV-Ray is just because you're not allowed
>to use the code for whatever you want.

Ahem... Ron, was that called for? Maybe I missed the small text
somewhere.


Peter Popov ICQ : 15002700
Personal e-mail : pet### [at] vipbg
TAG      e-mail : pet### [at] tagpovrayorg

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On Mon, 26 Nov 2001 13:00:46 +0200, Peter Popov wrote:
> On 25 Nov 2001 00:57:59 -0500, Ron Parker <ron### [at] povrayorg>
> wrote:
> 
>>Of course nobody's asserting that.  Equally of course, that won't stop you 
>>from making an ass out of yourself trying to show how horrible everyone 
>>associated with the production of POV-Ray is just because you're not allowed
>>to use the code for whatever you want.
> 
> Ahem... Ron, was that called for? Maybe I missed the small text
> somewhere.

What you missed is that this luser has been bashing the POV-Team over in CGRR
for at least five years, by my count.  He's a petty little whiner and nothing
more.

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mod(P,100)),#local P=P/100;#end"")#end background{rgb 1}text{ttf L(R.x)L(R.y)0,0
translate<-.8,0,-1>}text{ttf L(R.x)L(R.z)0,0translate<-1.6,-.75,-1>}sphere{z/9e3
4/26/2001finish{reflection 1}}//ron.parker@povray.org My opinions, nobody else's

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> What you missed is that this luser has been bashing the POV-Team over in
CGRR
> for at least five years, by my count.  He's a petty little whiner and
nothing
> more.
>

As the originator of this thread, I just want to say:

The POV Team Rules.  You guys have given us a great product, fantastic
support,
and created a wonderful community.  Thanks!!!

Reading this thread has raised one more question in my mind.  Is POV-Ray 3.5
not
going to have an "Official" console mode version for the M$ platforms?

Just curious
Tom

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