On Thu, 19 Oct 2006 20:44:56 -0400, einarabelc5 wrote:

> I was annoyed because I wasn't getting help. You'll see you shouldn't
> think everyone has the same resources and ease and/or aviability of
> management of things. Just a point so you don't put everyone in your
> shoes. When I say I can't I mean I can't. AS soon as I could subscribe to
> the newsletter I did, and yet here I am posting using the online form and
> its textbox cause Outlook just doesn't do It. My point is: why add more
> complication at the process of doing something when you can get around it
> and fix it later doin' it right?

Because there didn't have to be more complication.  In fact, if you'd
asked nicely instead of getting upset, someone could've explained to you
that you can in fact post binaries through the web interface.

> You see thats the thing I didn't stuck here I got around it, see:
> 
> http://www.tb-software.com/board/showthread.php?action=newpost&tid=18

<shrug>  Good for you.

>> And when the link goes away?  Again, that's the point of that type of
>> policy in most online forums.  As you say, it's reasonable, so just
>> follow it.
> Hey man i was looking for a quick, practical solution, I didn't wanted to
> add more load to the problem. Are you European?

No, I live in Utah.  But I don't just think about *me* when it comes to
asking for help, and I don't see why others shouldn't consider the benefit
to others of having things accessible easily and within the format that
they're accustomed to within a community.

>> > Again:
>> > Just go here:
>> > http://forums.nvidia.com/index.php?showtopic=19820
>> >
>> > try to download WITHOUT LOGGING in...see what happens...
>>
>> Sorry, no.  As I said, I don't have the expertise in the area you're
>> asking about, just pointing out that you're not winning any points or
>> making friends by being belligerant about what you've now said is in
>> fact a reasonable request.
> Again, quickness. Configure newsreader later. Why wait half a day for
> something that can be done back and forth in half an hour? Again, are you
> European?

Again, no, I live in Utah.  But quickness for you at the inconvenience of
those who (a) are able to help you, and (b) come after with the same issue
and then can't find your post on the other forum for whatever reason -
NVidia gets acquired by ATI (who knows, it could happen) and ATI shuts
down the forum in order to integrate it into theirs - who knows - the link
is dead and the discussion is useless.

Think about more than just yourself.

>> I hate web-based forums.  Threading sucks in most of them.  I use a
>> newsreader, and most web-based forums have awful to no NNTP integration
>> support.
> That's your opinion and being entitled to it doesn't mean you have to make
> anyone else think like you and get into your shoes. Hey when I thought
> Steve's was pissed because I said "man" to him not knowing it could be
> offending I let him be pissed and deal with it himself.

No, but it does mean that when I participate in a community, I don't
expect the community to bend to my way of thinking (which is what you're
attempting to do by saying "visit this other forum to see what my problem
is").  If the community expectation is that you post the details of your
problem *here*, then post them *here*.  Don't expect people to have to
visit another set of forums (again, registration needed?  Don't know,
don't care, I don't own NVidia equipment and it's your problem, not mine,
so I'm not inclined to bother to find out if I have to register or
whatnot.  If everyone did what you're doing, nobody would get anything
answered and the community would lose cohesiveness).

> Ok I see, I just didn't did it because, (please understand) "I COULDN'T
> FOLLOW THEM"; so I found an inmediate alternative and MOVED ON to help YOU
> help me, to keep it going. Later I insisted on following the policies
> because I always saw the point of doing it. That's the whole point, don't
> try to get everyone else into your shoes, and make them think like you.

That's the thing, you *could* have followed them if you'd asked *how*. 
You're posting through the web interface (obviously), so a better question
would've been "how do I post an attachment through the web interface" not
to declare "I can't post an attachment because I assume you need a
newsreader to do so and I can't use NNTP".

Again, when a community sets a standard, it's up to you as a newcomer to
follow the standard practices of the community, not to assume you can
force them to follow your way of doing things.  That tends to piss off the
members of the community and that works counter to your goal of resolving
your problem.

> The conclussion of all this is:
> 
> Don't drive any conclussions without getting the whole information. And
> that goes for the three of us.

I *didn't* drive any conclusions.  I merely pointed out the norms of
participating in online communities based on my 15+ years of experience in
doing so.

> Oh and BTW peeing didn't come to any section of Triune Brain. Being 
> animal, logical and sentimental.

You've stopped making sense here.

Jim

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