And lo on Mon, 10 Sep 2007 16:05:47 +0100, St. <dot### [at] dotcom> did spake,  
saying:

>
> "Phil Cook" <phi### [at] nospamrocainfreeservecouk> wrote in message
> news:op.tyfztib2c3xi7v@news.povray.org...
>> And lo on Mon, 10 Sep 2007 14:54:42 +0100, St. <dot### [at] dotcom> did spake,
>> saying:
>>
>>>
>>> "Phil Cook" <phi### [at] nospamrocainfreeservecouk> wrote in message
>>> news:op.tyfw5rskc3xi7v@news.povray.org...
>>>
>>>
>>>> Sounds like you've got the latter on your hands.
>>>
>>>    Yep, all of what you said was bang on Phil.
>>
>> Of course it was me saying it, besides it's about roads :-P
>
>       Heh, yeah, I knew that. :)

I am the road man coo coo ca choo

>>> Anyway, I haven't had time
>>> until now to say that I got my answer on Friday - no go. <sniff, bye  
>>> bye

>>
>> Dumb thing is if it were still a police matter I bet it would never have
>> been ticketed in the first place, they'd have realised the difference in
>> an infraction causing a problem and one that doesn't and simply not  
>> wanted
>> the hassle of all the paperwork.
>
>      That's so true. Kinda makes me want them back now, at least if you  
> did get a ticket, you'd know that they would probably be right in their
> decision.

Exactly and bonus you've got a police officer patrolling the street.

>>>     I thought some of the comments in the letter were interesting:
>>>
>>>     "As a rule and for consistency purposes within our Section, we will
>>> not issue a Penalty Charge Notice to a vehicle unless one wheel is
>>> outside the bay."
>>>
>>>      Erm, now let me get this straight, one wheel outside the bay??!  
>>> How
>>> is that possible in a car?
>>
>> On the side sure - slight angle with one wheel on the line, one outside.
>> Damn easy on some of the narrower bays.
>
>        Yeah, hadn't thought of that, but it reminds me that when I was  
> in a nearby town on Saturday, I looked at some of the bays there and  
> they were
> wide! Seriously, probably a foot wider than ours - there was loads of  
> room.

1.8m to 2.7m at the discretion of the local authority (damn how sad to  
know that) disabled bays have to be 2.7m minimum 3.6m maximum, unless the  
road width can't support the traffic at that width (In which case you can  
go back down to 1.8m); angled bays are 2 to 2.5m. Now go get your  
tape-measure :-)

>>>     And this:
>>>
>>>     "Further to your correspondence I would like to point out that
>>> waiting bays are marked out between drop kerbs, therefore, the length  
>>> of
>>> the bays
>>> are not measured on the number of vehicles that can park within the
>>> bays."
>>
>> Yup and they have to allow some wiggle room on the drop kerbs so they  
>> just
>> go from point-to-point, it's up to the driver to determine if they can
>> fit.
>
>       "Oh, damn, my back wheels are just going to be outside the line, I
> better move on and find somewhere else to make that important  
> appointment.
> Hmm, where shall I go, there doesn't seem to be anywhere, they're all  
> full."
> Twenty minutes later: "Ah, there's a spot! I'll get in that one." Checks
> time: "Missed the appointment!"
>
>      It doesn't make sense.

Only from a revenue-collecting standpoint, from a traffic-control one it  
makes no sense unless you're actually blocking something; there's the  
dichotomy.

>>>     Damn jobsworths.
>>
>> Easy - next time get there early when no-one's there and park directly  
>> in
>> the middle of the bay; won't win your neighbour's friendship, but you
>> can't be touched by the enforcers. Might start a block war, with  
>> everyone
>> revving their engines waiting to be the one to dominate the space; might
>> get the council to remove the bays in the first place.
>
>      LOL! :) Well, you know, I'd already thought of that, but if it is
> empty, I'll probably park as far forward as I can, because to be honest,  
> I would feel uncomfortable knowing someone will probably get a ticket  
> behind me.

To be honest me too, damn this moral conscience I'd be ruling the world by  
now otherwise.

> Hmm, I might put a sign in the car that I can stick on the back
> windscreen warning people not to park behind me if they've got a big or  
> long
> car. I bet the council have made a stack from that bay, and it would be  
> nice
> to save a pensioner some money.

That would be a nice gesture.

>> Actually I'm kind of curious as to why they're their in the first place?
>> Was there some problem with people parking in front of driveways or
>> whatever?
>
>      Yes, I think it was about five years ago that they put the bays  
> there.
> It's a one way street, so everyone was parking on the left hand side for
> ease of parking I guess. There's certainly more bays on the left than on  
> the right, as you can see from the images. Certainly as you walk up the  
> left
> side, you can see all the little notices nailed to the trees warning  
> people not to block the driveways.

Single yellows straight along might have been better.

>     Soon, I'll take another photo of a road situation which you would  
> simply hate Phil. It would be your worst nightmare if you had to drive  
> to work
> through it everyday.  :o)

I can't wait...um. Heh you should have overheard the police at our  
carnival when the doctor's car and the ambulance had to drive against the  
procession over our one and only bridge or face a nine-mile diversion (at  
the least) "Well they'll just have to get out of the bloody way"

-- 
Phil Cook

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