First the bug. I don't know why I never noticed this one before so it might
just be something wrong with my current install? Take a look in
moray.binaries under the same subject. Open the file attached. You will see
a CSG intersection, named 2, of a sphere and a difference, named 1, of 2
cubes. Evaluate CSG #2, the Intersection. Now unevaluate it. As you see when
you unevaluate it the CSG difference of the cubes remains evaluated. This
bug only occurs when you have a CSG with other CSGs in it. It seems to
effect all nested CSGs that is it only unevaluates the top level CSG.

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Now some feature suggestions I have, I do not expect any of these to be
implemented in the next version of Moray but perhaps they are something to
keep in mind if others like these ideas too.

1. When you open/save a file a picture of what the camera is viewing is
saved with the file, when you go to open the file you have a small window
next to the directory tree which displays the camera view for that file.
This is like Rhino.

2. Currently there are 3 types of lights spot, point and area. However the
way I see it area should not be a light source of its own rather a checkbox
option under point and spot to make each of those respective types into area
lights. This would not only make it possible to make spot area lights it
also more closely follow area lights implementation in the Pov SDL.

3. Stupid quibble but perhaps the trans/rotate spline objects might be
renamed to polygon/lathe to match their names in pov?

4. The ability to alphabetically sort the objects in the select tab.

5. In the materials editor removing the constraints on certain fields that
prevent you from entering values greater than 1 RGB and ambient and some
other fields come to mind.

6. This one is more complex but I think it would be a great feature. Have a
part of the program where you could define variables, they could have types,
such as string and int etc. to prevent conflicts. Anywhere else in moray
where you need to enter a value, say transformations, material settings,
light settings etc.. you could pop up a list of the variables that you
created that are of a type that can be entered into that field and you could
select from them. Then you could edit the variables and make large scale
changes to the scene.

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Hi Thomas Lake, you recently wrote in moray.win:

> First the bug.....  As you see when
> you unevaluate it the CSG difference of the cubes remains evaluated. 
Actually, this is by design. The Unevaluate button only unevaluates
the selected object, not subobjects. This is because it may be that
you don't want subobjects to be unevaluated, especially if they take a
long time to evaluate. 

However, to get the behaviour you want, simply press Shift when you
click on Unevaluate, this unevaluates all subobjects, too. :-)


> 1. When you open/save a file a picture of what the camera is viewing ..
This is already implemented in the current Alpha version. 

> 4. The ability to alphabetically sort the objects in the select tab.
This is tough, because they are in the hierarchy.... can't really sort
them in the hierarchy, especially since changing the order of a
difference does not reflect how the CSG is evaluated...

- Lutz
  email : lut### [at] stmuccom
  Web   : http://www.stmuc.com/moray

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> > First the bug.....  As you see when
> > you unevaluate it the CSG difference of the cubes remains evaluated.
> Actually, this is by design. The Unevaluate button only unevaluates
> the selected object, not subobjects. This is because it may be that
> you don't want subobjects to be unevaluated, especially if they take a
> long time to evaluate.
>
> However, to get the behaviour you want, simply press Shift when you
> click on Unevaluate, this unevaluates all subobjects, too. :-)

Damn I need to start reading the docs before I open my mouth:-)

> > 1. When you open/save a file a picture of what the camera is viewing ..
> This is already implemented in the current Alpha version.

Neat, thanks!

> > 4. The ability to alphabetically sort the objects in the select tab.
> This is tough, because they are in the hierarchy.... can't really sort
> them in the hierarchy, especially since changing the order of a
> difference does not reflect how the CSG is evaluated...

Hmm I do not mean sorting the subobjects of CSGs and groups but merely the
listing of all objects in the scene.

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> > 1. When you open/save a file a picture of what the camera is viewing ..
> This is already implemented in the current Alpha version.
And when you want to top it:
A 32x32 icon for the view in explorer would be fine.
I.e. Photoshop and CorelDraw do so.

-C-H-A-R-L-E-S-

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Hi Thomas Lake, you recently wrote in moray.win:

> Hmm I do not mean sorting the subobjects of CSGs and groups but merely the
> listing of all objects in the scene.
Ahhm, but where? There is nowhere where all objects of the scene are
listed..... Or are you referring to sorting only top-level objects? 

- Lutz
  email : lut### [at] stmuccom
  Web   : http://www.stmuc.com/moray

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>Or are you referring to sorting only top-level objects?

Yes that's what I mean. The select tab by default shows only the top level
objects untill you expand any of the CSGs/groups. I meant it would be nice
for this list of top level objects to be alphabetically sorted.

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How 'bout making it so you can reorder the top level objects as
desired in the select window and in the browser window. Either by
click and drag or by selecting an object and pushing and popping up
and down the list. 

I often have models with large lists of objects. It would be nice to
be able to place them where I want in the browser window so I can use
them more easily. Often I end up with one object at the top of the
list and one near the bottom and spend a lot of time scrolling back
and forth. This happens a lot when grouping and ungrouping stuff.

Stefan

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