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From: Rick
Subject: Re: Future of Moray/POVray (long)
Date: 3 Dec 1999 17:25:30
Message: <3848435a@news.povray.org>
> Thanks for the great feedback. I'll make sure we think about all your
> points. One of them is already in the next version (the Material
> Editor and Library cache the textures).

Hurrah! psychic Lutz !

Rick


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From: Rick
Subject: Re: Future of Moray/POVray (long)
Date: 3 Dec 1999 17:25:45
Message: <38484369@news.povray.org>
> > object masking would be essential as well, meaning the ability from
within
> > moray to turn of parts of the scene, replacing them with a single large
> > bounding box.
>
> You can do that.  A nice addition to the current capability would be to
> have layers.

damn, i knew i missed something! - yes and layers :)

Rick


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From: David Byrden
Subject: Re: Future of Moray/POVray (long)
Date: 4 Jan 2000 12:19:51
Message: <01bf56d7$a03a5cc0$668391c2@goyra>
Rick <pov### [at] dialpipexcom> wrote in article <3846a0f6@news.povray.org>...


> A simpler plugin system (as discussed on sdk-list) would be a real
> advantage, something allong the lines of beginner VB would be perfect -
draw
> your UI then write simple and easy to learn code to power it.


	For christ's sake, not VB - that's a horrible
travesty of a programming language. It's not even 
object-oriented! 




> the ability to parse POV script would be a
> real step forward - even a limited subset of the full language would be
> extremly usefull 

	I wrote a grammar for a subset of POV using
a Java parser called JavaCC. I use it to turn POV models
(output from Moray) into nested objects that I can combine 
and manipulate and then turn back into POV format. It
works fine but I'd like a formal description of POV language - 
does such exist?

				David


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From: Ken
Subject: Re: Future of Moray/POVray (long)
Date: 4 Jan 2000 13:27:03
Message: <38723844.BFAED55@pacbell.net>
> It works fine but I'd like a formal description of POV language -
> does such exist?

No.

-- 
Ken Tyler -  1300+ Povray, Graphics, 3D Rendering, and Raytracing Links:
http://home.pacbell.net/tylereng/index.html http://www.povray.org/links/


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From: Rick
Subject: Re: Future of Moray/POVray (long)
Date: 5 Jan 2000 06:07:38
Message: <387325fa@news.povray.org>
> > A simpler plugin system (as discussed on sdk-list) would be a real
> > advantage, something allong the lines of beginner VB would be perfect -
> draw
> > your UI then write simple and easy to learn code to power it.
>
>
> For christ's sake, not VB - that's a horrible
> travesty of a programming language. It's not even
> object-oriented!

Err, i think you will find it is, and remeber i was refering for a plugin
language for the masses, if VB was a little quicker, and didnt require
runtimes, nobody would bother with VC. (except maybe from the hard asses who
browse the web with a text based browser)

Rick


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From: David Byrden
Subject: Re: Future of Moray/POVray (long)
Date: 5 Jan 2000 07:25:37
Message: <01bf5777$b0dc1000$be8391c2@goyra>
Rick <pov### [at] dialpipexcom> wrote in article <387325fa@news.povray.org>...


> > VB is not even object-oriented!

> Err, i think you will find it is

	No, it's not, because it has 
no Inheritance. 



	If you want reasons why I called it 'horrible' 
I could write a much longer reply, but this is not the
correct newsgroup.


>, and remeber i was refering for a plugin
> language for the masses

	Well, VB won't do anything for 
the Linux masses.


				David


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From: Johannes Hubert
Subject: Re: Future of Moray/POVray (long)
Date: 5 Jan 2000 09:04:19
Message: <38734f63@news.povray.org>
Rick <pov### [at] dialpipexcom> wrote in message
news:387325fa@news.povray.org...
> > > A simpler plugin system (as discussed on sdk-list) would be a real
> > > advantage, something allong the lines of beginner VB would be
perfect -
> > draw
> > > your UI then write simple and easy to learn code to power it.
> >
> >
> > For christ's sake, not VB - that's a horrible
> > travesty of a programming language. It's not even
> > object-oriented!
>
> Err, i think you will find it is, and remeber i was refering for a plugin
> language for the masses, if VB was a little quicker, and didnt require
> runtimes, nobody would bother with VC.

No, not really. As long as I have the choice of using Java or C++, I
wouldn't want to program in VB if it was super fast and I was being beaten
with a stick if I didn't. I only would do it for money. Much money. :-)

Johannes.


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From: Krystian G Bates
Subject: Re: Future of Moray/POVray (long)
Date: 5 Jan 2000 11:03:26
Message: <38736b4e@news.povray.org>
"David Byrden" <Dav### [at] byrdencomspampreventer> wrote in message
news:01bf5777$b0dc1000$be8391c2@goyra...
> Rick <pov### [at] dialpipexcom> wrote in article
<387325fa@news.povray.org>...

> Well, VB won't do anything for
> the Linux masses.
>
Err, well, that's kinda a moot point, as Moray doesn't do a whole lot for
the Linux masses, either. Actually, Moray is the reason I switched back to
the wunderful world o' Windows :P  There were a few other reasons, but I
simply couldn't find a *nix based modeller that could touch Morays
capabilities and ease of use, and I doubt Lutz has any plans on porting it
any time soon (Matter of fact, I believe I would be shot if I seriously
suggested/expected him to :) )


Krystian


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From: Rick
Subject: Re: Future of Moray/POVray (long)
Date: 5 Jan 2000 13:38:29
Message: <38738fa5@news.povray.org>
> Well, VB won't do anything for
> the Linux masses.

who cares - they cannot run Moray anyhow!!!!

Rick


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From: Nieminen Juha
Subject: Re: Future of Moray/POVray (long)
Date: 6 Jan 2000 05:18:41
Message: <38746c01@news.povray.org>
Rick <pov### [at] dialpipexcom> wrote:
:> Well, VB won't do anything for
:> the Linux masses.

: who cares

  This is the typical attitude...

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