Hi
I like the anim plug, the keyframe support is excellnt, however, would it be
possable to make the plug render in POVray, that way we get animation and
lots iof fancy effects!

Rick

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Yes, it is possible to get it working with POV-Ray.  However, it is
quite difficult.  Given the current structure of both Moray and POV-Ray,
this requires writing a GUI-extension DLL for POV-Ray and a whold bunch
of code within the Moray plugin to establish the connection.

You would also have to be very careful not to do any modification of the
scene while the animation is being generated (you wouldn't be able to
generate multiple renders/animations at the same time like you do with
Polyray).  There's no way for me to lock down the scene from edits.

Over time I will probably get this done - it's just that it is a bigger
task than it might appear.

Xander

Rick wrote:
> 
> Hi
> I like the anim plug, the keyframe support is excellnt, however, would it be
> possable to make the plug render in POVray, that way we get animation and
> lots iof fancy effects!
> 
> Rick

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What about a simpler solution? Something like:

When exporting the animation to POV, your plugin simply steps through all
keys (changing each object accordingly, as it already does now when the user
moves the slider) and exports a numbered POV-script for each frame, plus a
nice batch or INI file at the end, to run the whole bunch through POV-Ray.
This wouldn't take advantage of POV's clock, but it would work...

Johannes.


Alexander Enzmann wrote in message <371B1218.1F6152A1@mitre.org>...
>Yes, it is possible to get it working with POV-Ray.  However, it is
>quite difficult.  Given the current structure of both Moray and POV-Ray,
>this requires writing a GUI-extension DLL for POV-Ray and a whold bunch
>of code within the Moray plugin to establish the connection.
>
>You would also have to be very careful not to do any modification of the
>scene while the animation is being generated (you wouldn't be able to
>generate multiple renders/animations at the same time like you do with
>Polyray).  There's no way for me to lock down the scene from edits.
>
>Over time I will probably get this done - it's just that it is a bigger
>task than it might appear.
>
>Xander
>
>Rick wrote:
>>
>> Hi
>> I like the anim plug, the keyframe support is excellnt, however, would it
be
>> possable to make the plug render in POVray, that way we get animation and
>> lots iof fancy effects!
>>
>> Rick

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Hi!

> Yes, it is possible to get it working with POV-Ray.  However, it is
> quite difficult.  Given the current structure of both Moray and POV-Ray,
> this requires writing a GUI-extension DLL for POV-Ray and a whold bunch
> of code within the Moray plugin to establish the connection.
So I guess it's not possible for plugins just to call the 'render'
function in moray? Would be very easy, then. Perhaps something to do for
Lutz.

I'd also like rendering animations using povray as - alas! - Xander's
anim plugin isn't very fast. This is especially important in animations!
I've experienced that Povray renders the same scene, using similar
settings (no antialiasing tricks!), up to four times as fast.

> You would also have to be very careful not to do any modification of the
> scene while the animation is being generated (you wouldn't be able to
> generate multiple renders/animations at the same time like you do with
> Polyray).  There's no way for me to lock down the scene from edits.
Well, I don't see any solution either. But this actually only a short
time, until all the hundreds of pov scripts have been generated. (I
think you could just export the scene a hundred times with the
appropriate object position and then render them. Like a batch process.)

> Over time I will probably get this done - it's just that it is a bigger
> task than it might appear.
I hope it's coming fast! 

I'm not missing many features in your plugin, it's few which cannot be
done but can be by Povray. But I saw that your plugin was created from
Polyray. Now, Polyray has even got features that Povray misses - e.g.
spherical heightfields or area-lights. What about a plugin for them?

Bye
  Florian

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