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From: dbott
Subject: IRTC...The Future
Date: 25 Jan 2007 00:23:03
Message: <45b83eb7@news.povray.org>
Like I said earlier, I am just a programming hobbyist.
(kinda nerdy thing to do, but I like it) I am self-
employed and very successful. I taught myself  POV
and submitted an animation for the first time.
Only to find out IRTC is in a BLACK HOLE.
All you animators should read the last couple
of threads of irtc.stills. (Markus Altendorff told
me to do this) I am sad, I followed IRTC the
last two years and learned from it......
dbott
Here is the last thread I read from irtc.stills:



Greetings once again everyone.
As I promised in my last message, posted on the "New Topic?" thread,
I have returned with word from a Povray administrator concerning the
situation
with the IRTC.

The message I received is as follows:


>> I am concerned about the situation too, and have raised it with the
[IRTC]
>> admins. One of them (who normally does the final round processing) is not
>> responding to email, so I don't really know what is up.

>> Ultimately, if the IRTC isn't going to work properly anymore, probably it
>> might be time for it to have a rest. The code developed for POVCOMP is
>> available to restructure into a new competition, if someone wants to take
>> on the work, but it would be a fair job to make it all work automatically
>> (which IMO is important). I will of course offer support for this and the
>> needed hosting.

>> At the moment all we can do is wait and see what eventuates.

So it looks like there's a certain amount of confusion taking place among
the Povray admins themselves.

Perhaps we should be patient for a while longer and see what happens
concerning the IRTC.  Though, in the meantime, it would probably be prudent
to continue developing plans for a potential successor to the IRTC, if it
should fail altogether.


Also, as I've said before, I vote for "primitives" for the Jan-Feb
pseudo-competition.  But, then, where would we send our submissions to?
Would someone be willing to accept entries (just this one time) and post
them online?

Regards,

-Isaac K


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From: Markus Altendorff
Subject: Re: IRTC...The Future
Date: 25 Jan 2007 06:10:37
Message: <45b8902d$1@news.povray.org>
dbott schrieb:
> Like I said earlier, I am just a programming hobbyist.
> (kinda nerdy thing to do, but I like it) I am self-
> employed and very successful. I taught myself  POV
> and submitted an animation for the first time.
> Only to find out IRTC is in a BLACK HOLE.

No it's not. Just because something has an attraction doesn't make it a 
black hole. You may want to think of your upload as a file backup to a 
write-only device for now, but i'm still hoping. ;)

> All you animators should read the last couple
> of threads of irtc.stills. (Markus Altendorff told
> me to do this) I am sad, I followed IRTC the
> last two years and learned from it......

No need for sadness, i guess. Looks like there's enough people 
interested in it to keep it going, we may just need a bit of time to 
sort things out :)

For fun: hey, i've sorted the IRTC's topics suggestions list in 
mysterious ways. Let's play topics lottery: Post a number between 1 and 
55 and i'll tell you what topic that would be ;)
Then feel free to animate something around that ;)

-Markus


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From: dbott
Subject: Re: IRTC...The Future
Date: 25 Jan 2007 08:52:15
Message: <45b8b60f@news.povray.org>
"Markus Altendorff" <maa### [at] panoramasde> wrote in message
news:45b8902d$1@news.povray.org...
> dbott schrieb:
> > Like I said earlier, I am just a programming hobbyist.
> > (kinda nerdy thing to do, but I like it) I am self-
> > employed and very successful. I taught myself  POV
> > and submitted an animation for the first time.
> > Only to find out IRTC is in a BLACK HOLE.
>
> No it's not. Just because something has an attraction doesn't make it a
> black hole. You may want to think of your upload as a file backup to a
> write-only device for now, but i'm still hoping. ;)
>
> > All you animators should read the last couple
> > of threads of irtc.stills. (Markus Altendorff told
> > me to do this) I am sad, I followed IRTC the
> > last two years and learned from it......
>
> No need for sadness, i guess. Looks like there's enough people
> interested in it to keep it going, we may just need a bit of time to
> sort things out :)
>
> For fun: hey, i've sorted the IRTC's topics suggestions list in
> mysterious ways. Let's play topics lottery: Post a number between 1 and
> 55 and i'll tell you what topic that would be ;)
> Then feel free to animate something around that ;)
>
> -Markus

I hope it all works out for the irtc.......Ok, as for my number, how
about......hm..........................45.
dbott


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From: Markus Altendorff
Subject: Re: IRTC...The Future
Date: 25 Jan 2007 13:26:03
Message: <45b8f63b$1@news.povray.org>
dbott wrote:

> I hope it all works out for the irtc.......Ok, as for my number, how
> about......hm..........................45.

Congratulations, this corresponds to topic: "Space Settlements"
Annotation reads: "These huge artificial worlds were 
conceived in the 1970s, but there have been almost no 
artist's renderings since then. Hills, lakes, buildings, 
vehicles, people -- all on the INSIDE of the world instead 
of the outside. (See http://tinyurl.com/n83uy)"

Interesting.

-Markus


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From: dbott
Subject: Re: IRTC...The Future
Date: 26 Jan 2007 00:47:19
Message: <45b995e7@news.povray.org>
"Markus Altendorff" <maa### [at] anthrosphinxde> wrote in message
news:45b8f63b$1@news.povray.org...
> dbott wrote:
>
> > I hope it all works out for the irtc.......Ok, as for my number, how
> > about......hm..........................45.
>
> Congratulations, this corresponds to topic: "Space Settlements"
> Annotation reads: "These huge artificial worlds were
> conceived in the 1970s, but there have been almost no
> artist's renderings since then. Hills, lakes, buildings,
> vehicles, people -- all on the INSIDE of the world instead
> of the outside. (See http://tinyurl.com/n83uy)"
>
> Interesting.
>
> -Markus

All right -
Yes very interesting topic.....lets set a completion time.
Something quick and dirty or should we put some time into it. I worked on
coo
coo (my official irtc entry for Jan 15th) in about a month. I could and
should have
put a little more time into it. I'm kinda angry no one gets to see it right
now.
""""WHERE IS IRTC""" Sorry just venting a little................hm

Anyone else want to join in on this topic..............

How do you want to access them. You can download mine from
my web page eastsoundsuites.com. I can add a page to it.
It's not a graphics web site it's my business site.
Vacation rental...

dbott


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From: Markus Altendorff
Subject: Re: IRTC...The Future
Date: 26 Jan 2007 03:54:59
Message: <45b9c1e3@news.povray.org>
dbott wrote:
>>
>>> I hope it all works out for the irtc.......Ok, as for my number, how
>>> about......hm..........................45.
>> Congratulations, this corresponds to topic: "Space Settlements"
>> Annotation reads: "These huge artificial worlds were
>> conceived in the 1970s, but there have been almost no
>> artist's renderings since then. Hills, lakes, buildings,
>> vehicles, people -- all on the INSIDE of the world instead
>> of the outside. (See http://tinyurl.com/n83uy)"
> 
> All right -
> Yes very interesting topic.....lets set a completion time.
> Something quick and dirty or should we put some time into it. I worked on
> coo
> coo (my official irtc entry for Jan 15th) in about a month. I could and
> should have
> put a little more time into it. I'm kinda angry no one gets to see it right
> now.

Hey, just upload it and i'll promise to look at it. Maybe we should 
build a preliminary viewing page until the "real IRTC" is back? I've 
some webspace to spare, so drop a link and i'll see what i can do. Or 
zip it up and send it to
the_missing_irtc
then insert (at) and then complete the mail address with
anthrosphinx.de
(the hoops you need to jump through just to keep spammers out... sigh.)

> """"WHERE IS IRTC""" Sorry just venting a little................hm

Well, (just some delirious scenario following, not meant to offend 

endless desert and/or ridden with the most poisonous creatures 
imaginable and/or full of easy-going people with floppy hats full of 
fishing hooks and corks ;) - so maybe our missing admin had a bad run-in 
with some jellyfish and needs to stay in hospital for a month without 
web access...?

> Anyone else want to join in on this topic..............

I've felt inspired, though i must admit my idea for an animation wasn't 
original but rather leaned on an older short story from a 70s SciFi 
collection. Would be nice to see if Cinema4D now can handle a 200 units 
figure inside a 2,000,000 units toroid... older versions went through 
the roof with rendering times if you did that - i had to split scenes 
with backgrounds when i made the "Escape" outdoor scenes and render the 
close-ups in two passes, with the background from pass1 as moving 
texture in pass 2.

> How do you want to access them. You can download mine from
> my web page eastsoundsuites.com. I can add a page to it.
> It's not a graphics web site it's my business site.
> Vacation rental...

Careful: if we decide to do this (like the irtc.stills people working on 
their "stand-in" project right now), its resulting movies may not make 
it back to the irtc website - at least not as an "official" round. Of 
course, i may be totally wrong there. I just don't want to "branch off 
the IRTC", it's such a nice household name.

Hey, maybe my question about "two extra weeks" was taken seriously, and 
the admin will be back by Jan.31st and wondering what all this was about...?

-Markus


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