On Wed, 02 Apr 2008 11:50:39 +0100, Invisible <voi### [at] devnull> wrote:

>Well, let me put it this way.

A quick reply with out thinking too much.
I think that you are getting mixed up between Potential Difference and
voltage at a point. Consider opening a drain pipe in a tank, the
pressure at the tap is ambient (or a little above) this equates to
zero volts but the head of water is still high this is the PD of the
battery. 
The fault is with your thinking you are analysing a childish analogy
with an educated adults reasoning power. 
You are wrong we are right if you find out why you are wrong life will
not be any easier :)
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Regards
     Stephen

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