On 11/30/2016 11:26 AM, Dave Blandston wrote:
> it's the result of
> a carefully planned and orchestrated conspiracy spanning many decades which has
> been perpetrated by the most evil one of all.
>
Hmm. Some of it is decades. The rich lost power, multiple times, in the 
US, when the economy crashed badly enough, or their excesses grew too 
great, for the populace, and even the government, to ignore. So, yes, 
the last fall, and subsequent rise, of these has been mere decades.

The problem, I would argue, is that there is a much longer running one, 
going clear back to the founding - between those that wished for 
changeability and true equality, and those who sought absolute authority 
over some ideals. They lost, badly, early on, not just when separation 
of church and state became a corner stone, but soon after, when vast 
amounts of their wealth and land was taken, due to them deciding to try 
to run large parcels of it what amounted to independent states, in which 
the church made the law, and raised the taxes. It hammered the principle 
of separation in hard. But, it took less than a decade before actions 
where being taken by the super-religious to undermine this, a tiny 
nibble at a time.

Now, yes, we have massive misinformation, and fear mongering, and the 
two sides, the oligarchs, and the, as one person on the net seems to 
have coined it (since I can't think of the proper term that sounds right 
as well) religiarchs have decided to side together. This isn't going to 
be a nice fit, at all, and they will fight each other. Its inevitable, 
since you cannot profit, without someone religious deciding they don't 
like what you are profiting from in some manner. but.. sadly, for now, 
too many involved are "both".

So, not sure what "most evil one" you are talking about, but.. no.. That 
much I don't agree with. This has all been brewing, among the self 
defined elite, both that that think this because they are richer, and 
thus, in their minds, more deserving, than everyone else, or those that 
demand we recognize their "moral superiority". Never mind that they seem 
to trade humanity, compassion, sympathy, and especially anything like 
real justice for this "superior morality". Just as the rich trade, 
"fairness", for, "con artistry".

Nah, we have a fun fight now. If one where to, generally divide these 
people up into three groups, by their different levels of belief in 
religion, vs. pure capitalism, and gave them a man dying of thirst, the 
first would demand he convert, lest he be not allowed to drink from the 
well in the church the built over the only source of water. The second 
would still build the church, but they would demand by what right the 
man thought he should be allowed to enter, when he obviously had done 
nothing to afford the tithe to get it. And the last - would ask him why 
he did not simply threaten his servants to give him the money, to buy a 
bottle from the bottling plant they built instead, or baring that, 
failed to step up, and find a means to cheat someone else, possibly a 
friend, out of the money needed to pay. (These are actually things that 
one of the Trump's admitted to doing, when their allowances became a 
"hardship").

None of these people are "new". They have been around as long as the 
country, and as long as industry and commerce, they just, until now, in 
this country, been denied the power they always demand as being somehow 
"entitled to them". Is it a wonder that, when speaking of those they 
would deny, they claim that everyone is trying to "take away" the same 
things - entitlements, privileges, unfair advantages? Nope, those things 
are only for the "worthy", and prosperity for the unworthy is always 
unfair treatment of those more deserving, in their twisted fantasy world.

-- 
Commander Vimes: "You take a bunch of people who don't seem any 
different from you and me, but when you add them all together you get 
this sort of huge raving maniac with national borders and an anthem."

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