On Tue, 26 Jan 2016 19:54:21 +0000, Stephen wrote:

> On 1/26/2016 7:13 PM, Jim Henderson wrote:
>> On Tue, 26 Jan 2016 17:51:55 +0000, Stephen wrote:
>>
>>
>>> About 20 years ago I was on a rig where the OIM had been to the
>>> funeral of the last Doric, of a certain type, speaker.
>>
>> I need to find out from Alistair what it is that he speaks.  He said
>> there's one other person in the town he lives in who speaks it.
>> Fortunately, they get along. :)
>>
>>
> Fit like, ma loon?
> :)

No comprendo. :)

>>>> Welsh actually is one of those languages, as is Irish.  Breton,
>>>> Scotish Gaelic, Cornish, and Manx are the other living languages.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Irish, are you talking about Irish Gaelic?
>>
>> Yes, sorry, I should have been clear on that.
>>
>>
> Yeah, it took me a while to understand what you meant.
> But coming from somewhere that speaks Lowland Scotts/ Ulster Scots. I am
> easily confused. :)

:)
 
>>>> I can't tell you how many people mispronounce my cats' names - which
>>>> are Manx Gaelic (and actually, relatively simple names to pronounce).
>>>>
>>>>
>>> That supriseses me. :-P
>>
>> Which part of it?
>>
>>
> The part where you missed out what your cat is called. :P

Ah - the two in question are Fynn (most people don't have a problem with 
that) and Eiyrt (which proves a lot more challenging for most - one vet 
tech was so pleased she had it right that we didn't have the heart to 
tell her she was actually saying it wrong.)

>> That they're simple names to pronounce?
>>
>>
> Simple if you know how, I would imagine.
> It is like the "ch" sound in loch, I can't understand how some people
> cannot ronounce it. Badness I assume. ;)

Which brings me back to Welsh, naturally.  Lots of phlegm, from what I 
hear - including from a friend who's from Wales. :)

>>>> For example, the made-up word 'ghoti' is often used to describe the
>>>> idiosyncrasies of English pronunciation.  (The actual pronunciation
>>>> of that made-up word is "fish" - gh from 'tough', o from 'women', ti
>>>> from 'nation').
>>>>
>>>>
>>> A case of the parts adding to more than the sun of the whoke. :)
>>
>>
> Bloody Adia!
> See what happens when your spellchecker does not work. :(

I understood what you were saying, though. :)

>>> Watch it ot ETA will come to get you. :P
>>
>> LOL, ain't that the truth.  It didn't occur to me that I was speaking
>> Spanish (poorly) when I was in Barcelona, and I thought my Spanish
>> pronunciation was just a little rusty when a shopkeeper couldn't
>> understand me.  So I tried more slowly, and she "understood", and
>> replied full speed to my inquiry, even after it was apparent that I
>> wasn't speaking the same language she was.
>>
>> ¿Tiene libros de fotografías?
>>
>> and
>>
>> Té llibres de fotografies?
>>
>> Are not that far off from each other, but far enough, I think, to
>> inform the native-speaker that responding at native speed wouldn't be
>> helpful - and an answer that involves complex directions to a store
>> elsewhere in the shops probably wasn't going to be understood.
>>
>>
> LOL but the Spanish are a good natured people and are very happy that
> others try to speak Spanish.

Yeah. It's the "Catalonians" who are not as good natured (though, I have 
to admit, in almost 2 weeks there, I only ran into the one person who had 
a problem with my Spanish - though that might be because I didn't use it 
much, and on the cab ride from the airport, the other guy in the cab 
spoke fluent Spanish/Catalan, as he'd served an LDS mission in Barcelona, 
so I didn't have to talk at all.)

>> I found what I was looking for, eventually, anyways, so no harm done.
>>
>>
> Depend what sort of picture book you were looking for. ^-^

My eldest brother had an control issue that kept him to about a 2-mile 
radius of the apartment he lived in at the time; he'd used to like to 
travel some until the mid 70s or so, and then he just couldn't - some 
kind of phobia.

I thought it'd be nice to get him a book that showed some of Barcelona - 
but he didn't speak or read Spanish (or Catalan) at all, so I thought a 
nice book of photos would be good. :)

Jim
-- 
"I learned long ago, never to wrestle with a pig. You get dirty, and 
besides, the pig likes it." - George Bernard Shaw

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