On 04/08/2015 09:13 PM, Stephen wrote:
> On 8/4/2015 5:54 PM, Orchid Win7 v1 wrote:
>> (So... that sounds basically like what most people think about Haskell,
>> then!)
>
> No. Most people have not even heard of Haskell. And I am talking about
> IT managers and the coders that I've met.

So true! :'{

I did enjoy that time I told the guy at the top about Haskell.
"What's your favourite language then?"
"Haskell."
"OK. Why do you like it?"
"You remember that feature I implemented last year? That's about 300 
lines of C++ code. But in Haskell, it's 10 lines of code."
"HOLY ****!! For real? Why aren't we using this stuff?!"
"Uh, because that would seriously decrease our bus factor?"
(I don't think he knows what a bus factor is. But anyway...)

>> I don't know, man... Where I work, trying to get hold of any definitive
>> kind of design specification is basically impossible, because the boss
>> can't be bothered to *think* about the actual implications of the
>> feature we wants. He expects us clever people to just "make it work".
>> Even if that's completely self-contradictory.
>
> Sack him.
>
> Your company really needs to change the way it operates. Don't rely on
> salesmen to write the nitty gritty requirements. That has to be done by
> collaboration with someone in the clients company and someone who knows
> you product, intimately.

Uh, can you actually sack the guy who founded the business?

I could rant on about his multiple failings, but at this point I'm 
starting to believe that *every* business sounds like an episode of 
Dilbert. Are there *any* commercial entities out there which actually 
operate sanely?

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