>> Heck, in OpenSUSE 13.1, they even took away the scrollbar and replaced
>> it with a page-selector widget. The entire design seems focused on
>> touchscreens.
>
> I run 13.1 on two machines every day with GNOME3.  I've no idea what
> you're talking about - I've got scrollbars in my newsreader (pan), for
> example, and they work like scrollbars.

https://news.opensuse.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/Application-Launching-GNOME-13.1.png

You see those three dots on the right-hand edge? That used to be a 
scrollbar. And now it's three dots. Clicking one takes you to that page. 
Because clicking a dot is easy, but dragging a scrollbar is hard, when 
all you have is a touchscreen.

(Ironically, our product actually *has* a touchscreen - and everybody 
tries to swape-drag like it's an iPhone, and then gets awfully confused 
when that doesn't work...)

>> When you disable one, THE
>> EXTENSION is responsible for undoing all of its changes.
>
> Yep, and you can see the effects of this with some poorly written
> extensions.  The GNOME developers *really* need to harden the error
> handling a bit more.

Tell me about it. Right about the time they start *documenting* how this 
stuff is meant to work. (I still find it astonishing that this much code 
has been written given that there is NO DOCUMENTATION!)

One troll told me "no, there IS no documentation, and nor should there 
be; the source code is the documentation". WTF? Yeah, like I'm *really* 
going to read 50,000 LoC in an untyped scripting language just to figure 
out what ****ing command I need to turn off one button!

You do not read the Linux source code just to figure out what the 
default process priority is; you look at the frigging documentation!

>> Utterly failing to document one single shred of this is... exasperating
>> in the extremes!
>>
>> Still, we found that once we (*cough* I *cough*) spent a few months
>> patching the code, we could get it to hobble along more or less how we
>> wanted. OTOH, if Win8 doesn't work how you like... suck it?
>
> :)
>
> And the extensions system in GNOME3 has allowed those who preferred GNOME2
> to get some semblance of the functionality they were used to.
>
> I don't really care about the DE myself; GNOME3 is less distracting for
> me than KDE, which is why I use it - I'm more interested in apps and
> getting work done than tweaking my desktop endlessly. ;)

Yeah, well, we're trying to alter the DE so that you can only run our 
app with it. That's quite a non-standard task...

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