On 17/11/2013 6:04 PM, clipka wrote:
> Am 17.11.2013 17:49, schrieb MichaelJF:
>
>> But my picture will be an abstract one. I know that abstract and
>> surrealistic
>> images have a problem within a community focused at photorealism. But
>> one can
>> craft a lot of more images beyond the photorealism limit with POV. And
>> I will do
>> so again and again. Here is an update.
>
> I think there's no inherent conflict betweem photorealism, as I
> understand it, and surrealism.
>

I agree but I see that, at least in TC-RTC, abstract and surreal images 
get very poor scores.


> Look at paintings from Hieronimus Bosch, for instance - his famous
> depictions of hell were quite close to what I would call photorealistic,
> except that the figures depicted were pretty... weird, to say the least.
>

I have wanted to create my own Bosch-esk image for about ten years. Lack 
of time and skill, hold me back.

> My understanding of photorealism is that, for instance, that the rust on
> your buoys looks like real rust, that the jester's cap looks like made
> from real cloth, and that the owl in the mirror looks just like the
> mirror image of a real owl would, except that we just can't see the owl
> directly.
>

Exactly.

> Other than that, I'm perfectly fine with raytraced images being surreal
> - as a matter of fact I think surrealistic images with photorealistic
> details make for a great contrast.
>
>
> As for abstract, your image just isn't.
>

IMO It is surrealist.

Oh! BTW Michael, keep it up.

-- 
Regards
     Stephen

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